On Tue, 22 May 2007 06:58:19 +0200 "M. Fioretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, May 21, 2007 10:46:09 AM -0400, Celejar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > > I'll point out that the OT thread I started (Good, evil, etc) was a > > response to a sig that I felt attacked religion unfairly. Many > > people use quite provocative sigs, ridiculing (often wittily) > > political or religious views they oppose. If we demand that posts be > > inoffensive, I counter-request that people cut the offensive sigs. > > Generally speaking, I would probably agree with you, at least in > principle. Right now, this looks to me as just another attempt to > troll (or make Roberto start to troll again), or at the very least to > steer attention from your faults. If I politely disagree with you and provide reasoned arguments, that makes me a troll? > More exactly, I think that, even if you were right, the sigs are a > totally unrelated issue wrt the initial complaint of this thread and > that you, Roberto and the others are NOT in a position to negotiate or > counter-request anything right now. All of you make way too much OT > noise on list period. Whatever was the initial reason for *SOME* of > those threads, nobody cares anymore. The sigs are most definitely *not* a separate issue; I had started an OT thread out of an objection to what I felt was a gratuitously and unfairly offensive sig. Since one of the consistently recurring objections to OT traffic has been offensiveness, then that same concern applied to sigs is, IMO, perfectly germane. > If there were offending sigs or offending language and an initial > request to stop doesn't succeed, you should have asked the moderators > (*) to ban those who caused the problem. > > We can discuss sigs moderation again AFTER you all have started to > behave properly. And, I'd add, only if you all promise in advance to > NOT participate in that thread, if we need to end it some day :-) I'd say you sound much more trollish than Roberto or I. > Marco > > (*) yes, the moderators, that is listmasters or whatever you want to > call them. I have read your objection that this is a not moderated > list, but it is irrelevant. My proposal was to ban outright your email > or IP addresses, not to hold and check each single email sent to the > list by anybody. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
