On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 08:46:16PM EDT, Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 14 May 2007 18:44:12 -0400 > cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 07:49:15PM EDT, Celejar wrote: > > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:51:35 -0500 > > > "Russell L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > [some helpful, very detailed typing instructions] > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > So how's your typing coming along? > > I've been using gtypist to learn dvorak, and I'm making progress. I've > got the home and upper rows pretty much under control, and I'm working > on the lower row. gtypist doesn't always give complete instructions, so > I'm benefiting (I hope) from Russel's advice, and I have a PNG image of > the keyboard (taken from wikikpedia, before I saw the 'xkbprint' > command explained on the list recently ...) to show me where the keys > are.
I'm not sure this is a good idea .. except maybe at the very beginning. Objective #1 is to get your _fingers_ .. so to speak .. to "know" where each character is. Pavlovian .. a given character results in a given finger action .. But even this .. at least that's my personal experience .. is only true at the very beginning. Pretty soon your fingers will travel the keyboard faster than your eyes could take in individual characters. At that point you will need to be able to visually parse the text you're reading into predefined letter groups .. let's call them "syllables" .. and develop the ability to translate automatically these larger elements into memorized successions of keystrokes. Unfortunately .. the English language especially as it is written has an extremely large number of "syllables" .. something like seven thousand, I believe. True, some are more common than others .. But all the same, to master the keyboard .. or in other words make the interface as transparent as your mouth .. lips .. and vocal chords .. when you speak .. you eventually want your fingers to remember them all. > > As a f/up to Russell's excellent "minute tutorial" .. I'll second that. There is actually more useful advice in Russell's post than in the entire "help" provided by gtypist. But where I am impressed most of all is that I cannot imagine Russell spending a couple of hours writing this mini-tutorial of his. He will in/con-firm this .. but I have a feeling that since he appears to be a proficient typist it was just as easy for him to come up with his mini-tutorial "in writing" as it would have been for him to explain the same things viva voce. I have known a couple of folks whose typing had become second nature and what I found amazing was that they were able to come up in a few minutes with some form of rough howto text on any technical subject that they were familiar with where with rougly the same technical knowledge, it would have taken over an hour to do the same thing. Retrospectively, I realize that it was not just a matter of their being capable of typing at least five times faster than myself. No, it was mostly because to them typing had become so ingrained in their persona that there was absolutely no overhead involved. They could type with just as much ease as I speak and nothing related to the typing itself interfered with their thinking process while they were writing. Speaking of tutorials .. my personal impression is that gtypist provides an invaluable collection of typing drills but falls short of providing a full-fledged tutorial. Among other, things that I feel are missing: 1. Does not keep track of your progress via some form of stat file 2. Does not let you move back/forward within a drill to let you practice a difficult sequence over and over. If the difficult sequence is in line 7 of the drill .. you have to start from line 1 .. By the time you get to line 7 again, you've pretty much lost your concentration and end up making the exact same mistakes .. What to do .. Go back to the beginnning .. etc. Personally, what I do is fire up a vim session (or even an xterm) and practice whatever is causing me grief outside gtypist and go back to the drill when I feel I am ready to ascertain my progress. I don't think I should have to leave gtypist to practice something and come back when I feel I am ready for more. 3. Concentrates on typing the way it was done 40 years ago rather than computer users. OK for email & irc but there's nothing much in standard gtypist drills that directly helps improve your typing when it comes to typing C/C++, java, other programming languages, shell commands, or anything else that falls outside the obsolete typewriter keyboard .. including such very common things as Alt/Ctrl combos .. On the other hand it is extremely easy to add your own custom drills .. just copy some linux kernel code fragment, eg. under vim .. add a few simple gtypist markups and you're ready to roll. I think it's all explained in the gtypist man page or possibly the comments in /usr/share/gtypist/gtypist.typ Another thing that is not too wonderful about gtypist is the keyboard navigation commands .. such as "N" meaning "Next" in some cases and "No" .. as in do you want to continue? .. in others .. What happens quite often is you type "N" out of habit and get kicked out of the series and have to go through the entire series again when you thought your "N" was going to take you to the "next" drill .. Quite infuriating .. There are other examples of poor gtypist ergonomics that used to -- and still do at times .. drive me nuts. [Note: The above criticism is NOT meant to disparage gtypist. It's a very useful application and I for one owe it and therefore its author and awful lot.] > > I would add that you may want to find yourself a nice little old > > retired typist who enjoys and understands teaching and needs to > > supplement her income. Take a few lessons .. She probably won't > > charge you all that much and it may as much as halve the time before > > you can type proficiently. > Thanks. I'm totally conviced you could become a much better typist (faster .. more accurate .. less overhead involved ..) if you found someone to show you how one types .. someone to correct your mistakes & evaluate and encourage you as you go along. I believe I would have been where I am now at least a year ago if I had initially made that sensible choice. > > Teaching yourself any skill takes a lot longer because you have to be > > the student and the teacher at the same time. Besides .. things like > > posture and hand/wrist/forearm position are fundamental. You'll find > > that it's almost impossible to practice your drills and watch yourself > > doing it at the same time. > > > > Just a thought. > > I'll have to consider this, thanks for being interested! You are more than welcome. Thanks, cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
