On Wed, 09 May 2007 15:04:41 +1000 SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 05/08/07 19:55, SB wrote: > >>> Celejar wrote: > >>>> I don't ignore it; I agree that religion has made ordinary people do > >>>> extraordinarily cruel things; my point was that this isn't a problem > >>>> exclusive to religion, but to compelling and convincing axiologies in > >>>> general, and I reiterate, would we really be better off without them? I > >>>> think it is unjust to imply that I'm 'reflexively' dismissing 'every' > >>>> critique of religion as shallow and ignorant; I dismissed *one* as > >>>> such, and for reasons I maintain are logical. > >>>> > >>>> And one more thing; while religion can "make ordinary people do > >>>> extraordinarily cruel things", it can (and often does) also make > >>>> ordinary people do extraordinarily lovely things. > >>> It's the claim of an exclusive franchise on truth by some (mainly Judaism, > >>> Christianity and Islam) closely related religions that has compelled them > >>> to justify all manner of cruelty, in the name of "god". It's this claim > >>> that > >>> has caused and is causing all sorts of problems for the rest of us > >>> Heathens/Kaffirs. > > > > Or the fundamentalist Hindus who occasionally go on rampages, > > killing Muslims or burning people in effigy. > > > > Sure, but the Hindus aren't doing it in the name of God, Allah, Shiva > or whatever. Hinduism has other problems but claiming an exclusive franchise > on truth is not one of them.
That's exactly the point; humans being human, they will do cruel things even without "claiming an exclusive franchise on truth". > Regards, > /SB Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
