Found it !!! Desktop -> Administation -> Update Manager
and yes the check shows that all is good ... :O) -----Original Message----- From: Jan Sneep [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 24, 2007 8:15 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: Newbie Aptitude Question about Security Updates Now that's what I needed to hear. You are the first to mention an "orange asterisk" !! ... I suppose Groucho could also have said "Well if you don't like our first answer ... we have others" :O) So is there some place on the Gnome desktop that I can click on to get positive feedback that all the current security updates are in place? As I have never seen an asterisk in three months, of any color on the tool bar, I'm assuming that something hasn't been working properly? I have ALWAYS done the standard stable install, NEVER complied or added even so much as one simple package and that's my frustration. I had hoped that the OS would have been more user friendly than Windows. Just as an example, yesterday I wasted the entire day trying to re-install the OS. Must have wiped the hard drive, formatted it and tried the Net Install at least 5 times and couldn't figure out what prompt I had answered differently in prior installs that worked. Finally I decided to try and make a new install image CD. At that point I realized that a new kernel had been released this month and my old CD wouldn't work. So now I have a new desktop to figure out, well at least new to me. Have to figure out how to get Samba and Cups working all over again. So in effect I'm almost back to where I was in January. Very frustrating. I suspect it was the new release that messed things up with Apitude in the first place. It would have been nice if the program was smart enough to recognise that there had been a new release and ask me if I wanted to upgrade the kernel. But then again the Aptitude documentation makes it sound very simple and SAFE. The program will automatically manage all the dependencies and even remove packages that are no longer required. I had never done an update and since I've been given the impression that program updates are being done all the time it made sense that some dead wood would need to be removed. By the way, is there some way / place to identify documentation errors? Did a search on "workgroup" to try and find out where I can specify the Windows Workgroup in the Gnome Help documentation. Under "Network Administration Tool Manual" , section 3.6 "To change the way your system identifies itself in Windows networks" the documentation says that you can change the workgroup setting. But in fact not under the General Tab nor under any of the Tabs can you see what Workgroup is being presented never mind change it. Documentation also mentions being able to put in WINS addresses, but none of the tabs show that either. :O( Jan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of BartlebyScrivener Sent: April 23, 2007 10:57 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Newbie Aptitude Question about Security Updates On Apr 23, 5:00 pm, "Jan Sneep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Doug, > > But with all due respect ... it should be easier ... a lot easier! ... > simple basic stuff, like getting the latest Security Updates, IMHO should be > a no-brainer for the average user and not require a System Administrator to > do ... :O( Well now just a minute. If you did a standard install with the default Gnome desktop, all you had to do was wait for a little orange asterik to appear on the toolbar, click on it, and all of your security updates would be automatically installed. No asterik means there are no security updates. That IS dead simple. I'm not blaming you, because it's easy to get stray advice here and there and then end up using a program (Aptitude), even though you don't know the options and implications. But Gnome and Synaptic are dead simple. You can use Ubuntu as someone suggested. That is easier, if it installs. Though after five or six installations of each, I think Debian installs more reliably. Ubuntu is really easy, but (again, just my personal experience) is not as stable as Debian, assuming you install all of the updates willy nilly on both distributions. Every so often something breaks in a big way with an Ubuntu update. That should not happen with Debian stable, unless you start installing your own packages and modules. No expert, but that's been my experience. As Groucho said, "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them. Well, I have others." bs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? 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