-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I wrote: Voluntary cooperation by interested individuals acting without coercion. > > rules, yes, but no _rulers_.
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > That's communism. Communism is an economic theory, anarchy is a political structure. People can indeed come together to form a "commune" voluntarily. It has happened. However, "communism" has nothing to do with private property, to wit: com·mu·nism Pronunciation: \ˈkäm-yə-ˌni-zəm, -yü-\ Function: noun Etymology: French communisme, from commun common Date: 1840 1 a: a theory advocating elimination of private property b: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed Since I do not voluntarily agree to eliminate my private property to the collective, and since in anarchy I cannot be coerced into doing so, anarchy cannot be communism by definition. As far as I can tell from the Debian policies, each developer owns their own work. Debian is therefore not communist. In practice, communism (outside of voluntary communes) breaks down because individuals attempt to own themselves. By doing so they "violate" the system of communism. In anarchy, if I choose not to cooperate, no one else is effected. I own myself first and foremost. I can choose to be more efficient and cooperate with others in the "division of labor", or I can choose to be less efficient and withhold my labor from the group and no one can do squat about it. The withholding of the labor of those Debian developers who objected to the payments is, by definition, anarchic. They cannot be compelled. If Debian were communistic, they would not be _able_ to withhold their labors because they _must_ give to the collective "according to their abilities". Yes, I have read Marx. He was astoundingly ignorant. But he did finally present a theory that allowed the creation of a word defining the system of economics through private property: Capitalism. Silly man thought he was being insulting. Curt- - -- September 11th, 2001 The proudest day for gun control and central planning advocates in American history -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBRe7o2C9Y35yItIgBAQJ2Ygf+KbnJ6vmgiy79+3kezODcxYlh3oxmox0h CSbE5htzIOtMvKkRvNdUcUECOVpAw09GU9V/p2fLoXnIQQcoFbzJqaGkakBhd8N8 M6s8SNGLnQTdnreANXqGoSeNvxaZc8wkyJg/s/tyR6/YzCBlwvPfHkWl3tf3tstD jEIhvfqx4+aj+rnQGf1lSg06x4QNkJHEptfXC74P9FVHeoClCvak4cLIsJuLsKa4 uximAnuNzffvSRpucS+V65YVkyJBIlgxNLevwBAcM61t5sBgNNr4uwrSA1yduzAI +5C1nvh0u8vlPnDV84F81Ms9wWGyY9I1VeYlDPr3te/sMtEjQ3jj/w== =DjtD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]