Mitja Podreka wrote:
Freddy Freeloader wrote:
You truly have confused totalitarianism with socialism.
No. You don't recognize socialism put into practice as different than socialism by theory. Even communism, in theory, is a peaceable, benign, good for its citizens, decentralized form of government. It's proven itself to be just the opposite everytime it's been put into practice. Socialism, put into practice, is a high taxes, government runs everything, highly centralized form of government.
Many "western" European countries had or still have strong socialist parties in their parliaments and/or socialist governments. Some of them, Italy for example, also have quite strong and successful communist parties. The terms socialism and communism were vandalised by the authoritarian governments and individuals, in order to legitimate their authorities. In fact this governments had no more in common with socialism and communism than GNU/Linux has with Microsoft. Following the widely accepted "democratic" rationale of socialism and communism we could, for example, say that Debian GNU/Linux is a bad thing. The most common OS (socialism/communism) is Windows (authoritarian state/government). Knowing that Windows is not of very good moral and technical standards we can then "democratically" conclude that OS is a bad thing. Because Debian GNU/Linux is an OS it must then also be a bad thing. And to finish the discourse properly. We should also recognise democracy put into practice as different than democracy by theory.


When will you socialists learn to understand that the extremely high taxes and all the government programs you have are all forms of control? Socialist governments are about control of the citizenry. All these government programs are about making the people dependent on the state for everything, rather than making them self-reliant, and just providing the framework for their people to succeed.

No government, anywhere, can do things as efficiently as the private sector. The amount of waste and corruption grows as the government becomes more powerful too.

I went to work for the Veterans Administration a few years (16) ago, for about a year.... I worked as an HVAC technician for one of their hospitals. What a joke that place was. They were paying a "journeyman" HVAC tech more than the journeyman techs in the area, and this fool couldn't even interpret a set of gauges or troubleshoot his way out of a paper bag. He'd have been fired after a day or two on the job in any HVAC service organization I've ever worked for because nothing, and I mean nothing, he ever worked on worked after he touched it. The hospital was having to call in private firms to actually get things done. His method of "repairing" an A/C was to go tell the women that were complaining it was too hot in their offices was that they must be having hot flashes. He'd do that after he "adjusted" the thermostat in their room so it would read a few degrees lower than it actually was. So, government agencies run efficiently? Don't make me laugh. Public schools efficient and well-run? Don't make me laugh. I was far from the brightest student in the parochial system I attended up to the end of high school. I graduated high school with a 3.2 GPA. After I graduated I spent 7 years in heavy drug abuse without using a single skill I had learned in high school. At the end of that time I took a test designed to show where I was, skill wise, with the current crop of male public high school graduates. Know where I scored? The 95th percentile. That's very telling. A student with a 3.2 GPA, seven years of heavy drug abuse, and no preparation before testing, was in the 95th percentile of all male students graduating from public schools the year before. That's a very telling commentary on the pathetic quality of education those poor kids received from our public system.

The way to really improve our country is to keep the government out of just about everything. Government has a role to play in the lives of its people, but that role isn't that of a nanny who creates citizenry dependent on government for everything in their lives.

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