Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 07:57:26PM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: > > > > Mr. Sanchez, it is now very clear one of the reasons these off-topic > > postings have been going on so long: You are utterly ignorant of the > > reality of politics. > > > > Just because I consider it wrong to coerce others, in no way effects > > the right of any being to effectively and violently defend itself > > against those who _DO_ choose to use coercion. > > > > Assuming a peaceful man is a pacifist is irrational. Didn't you ever > > watch _Kung Fu_ as a kid? > > Right, and the section that you quoted included this phrase: "under > any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being" > > To me, that disallows self-defense. If I get punched in the face and I
As in, _someone initiates force_ against you ... > decide to realiate, then I have initiated force against my attacker. Retaliation is not initiation. You are entirely within your rights to defend yourself. You'd be a fool not to. > Now, that is in response to his attack and so is in self-defense. > However, I still have to initiate [something]. You may be initiating the courage to stand up against your attacker, but that's something else altogether. > idea of my political views. Can you cut me a break for an honest > mistake? Not when you continue to make them. Self-defence is not initiation of force. IFF English isn't your mother tongue (I don't know), I'd happily cut you slack for that. If so, this is merely a language based misunderstanding. My expertise is sorely lacking in foreign language skills, and I envy those (such as you?) who manage as well as they do in this often ridiculous language. Many twenty-somethings who were born into it do far worse these days. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html Please, don't Cc: me. Spammers! http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]