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On 02/21/07 14:29, Joe Hart wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 11:13:48PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
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>>> On 02/20/07 15:29, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 09:13:32PM +0000, andy wrote:
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>> Potentially a dumb query but I just don't know, and there doesn't seem 
>>>>> to be any documented discussion I can read, so pls humor me on this:
>>>>>
>>>>> after Etch has done its daily update via update mngr, is it generally 
>>>>> considered a wise thing to reboot the computer to check the take or can 
>>>>> one have a reasonably good degree of confidence that as far as is 
>>>>> reasonable to predict, all will be well?
>>>> depends on what gets upgraded (you *do* review the upgrades,
>>>> right?). If you've got some new core thing (kernel, xorg, udev, etc.)
>>> xorg is only core to people who still (*even* if they don't realize
>>> it) think that Real Operating Systems are designed the same way that
>>>  MS Windows is designed.
>>>
>>> Your penance is to make a pilgrimage to Portland and walk up Linus'
>>> driveway on your knees, while reading the Green Dragon Book.
>> huh. check my headers you icedove-using-geek-wannabe! ;-P
> 
>> oh. and no its not forged.
> 
>> seriously though, and unfortunately, for many people it *is*
>> core. Having X totally crap out on them would be a good thing, IMO. 
> 
>> A
> 
> Looks like a flame war to me....

No, just some good natured humor.

> This computer boots strait into KDE because the installer put in the
> init scripts to start kdm.  (I used bootcheat: install tasks="standard,
> kde-desktop").  If I upgrade something like Xorg (which I did earlier
> today from sid), all I do is open a tty and login, then type
> "/etc/init.d/kdm stop" and that stops X, then I start it up again with
> /etc/init.d/kdm start, log out and go back to X.
> 
> It's not a difficult thing to do.  I will admit that I always have a

But it's not The Console.  Dark, cryptic, foreboding, that which
makes Unix what it is...

> terminal (Konsole) running on one of my desktops, so going CLI is
> frequent.  I find it also easier to hit alt-f2 and type the name of the
> program (or part of it) to run something than to find it in the k-menu.
> 
> You have to understand that a whole generation has grown up without
> knowing what a prompt is, and for those people X is the operating
> system.  If they only knew the power of the CLI....
> 
> Be thankful that they even know what GNU/Linux is.

People should have to pass a competency test before being allowed to
use a computer.

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