On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 04:19:10PM -0600, Gnu_Raiz wrote: > > From: Baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > One day in gym class Baz wrote: > > How is it off-topic? To you perhaps - get down off your high-horse. > > I have to agree with Jon on this one, the news post was off topic we have > RSS feeds for instant news if we want it. That might even considered as > spam, as lots of spam have titles like that. Besides last I checked Apple > had more in common with FreeBSD then with Linux. Even if some Debian > users care about Jobs, and DRM this really isn't the proper group. You > might find other groups, or mailing lists more on topic. > > I mean if you really think about it I could talk about my dog because it > is important to me as a Debian user. But that really doesn't mean its a > good subject to bring up on a list such as this. If news is important > you might want to consider IRC, that way you can get instant > gratification, and don't have to wait for replys. Heck freenode even has > a bunch of mac channels. I am sure they would be a more amenable then a > bunch of diehard Linux fans. > > I would also suggest refraining from flametory remarks, as this will most > likely bring a bunch of posts about the posting rules, top posting, > followed by proper mua's etc ... > > As far as the notebook is concerned a person is probably not going to get > a lot of good info from this list, especially when other lists are > availabe. In fact I would almost consider this list as a last resort, and > it would be counter productive as you would have lots of people go over > the basics which might not be very useful if your looking for a good > answer. > > I usually use a basic three step approach about finding a solution to a > notebook problem, or problem in general. Since I am usually not a very > patient person I can't be bothered to wait for a response from the list. > > 1. I define the problem from an error message, or narrow it down as much > as possible to a package or device. > > 2. I then search Google, for my problem error, usually this will pop up a > bunch of stuff, then I search Google groups if need be. If I can't find > it there I search Debian.org with Google using site search, then if I > still haven't found it I would site search my notebooks manufacture site > using google site search. If I still haven't found a solution I usually > pop on IRC, ask in the proper channel, as I said I am not a patient > person. > > 3. If all else fails I post to the proper group, which most likely will > show up in #2, and wait for a proper response. If that fails I post to > Debian User, and Rant about how worthless Debian is until I get a > response. I then install Ubuntu, and tell everyone how good it is until I > have the exact same problem, and use the ubuntu forums instead. > > I usually find my solution at the beginning of #2, if it's a bug I then > file a bug report. Also the end of part #3 was somewhat of a joke, I > seem to see this more and more through! Seriously I am an impatient > person and I usually find 95% of my solutions before I have to post. The > other 5% I usually end up going to specific mailing lists, as my problems > seem to be indepth and corner cases, I usually get a better response from > them. > > Now I understand that a lot of people like hand holding, and want a > confirmation after each little baby step, but as everyone knows a mailing > list really isn't the place for hand holding. Heck you hand might fall > off just waiting for a touch.
I've heard of OT, but this is ridiculous ;) -- David Jardine "Running Debian GNU/Linux and loving every minute of it." -L. von Sacher-M.(1835-1895) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
