On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 06:45:44PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 03:09:29PM +0100, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > > > > > I really understand you, I started with Commodore 128, and first started > > bah! I spit on your shiny new commodore. *my* commodore was a vic-20 > with 3.5k ram. Now that taught you how to control resources. buncha > new-fangled whipper-snappers. > > seriously though, we used to max out that little machine. like this > little trick. a '?' was shorthand for 'print' *and* it used less > memory. but when you 'list'ed the line that contained it, the > interpreter would expand the '?' into a 'print'. If you were really > packing the code in, that would make you line longer than the 80 char > max so you'dhave to go back in and convert all your 'print's back to > '?'s. >
My first Z-80 was the Timex-Sinclair 1000 with 16 Kb ram and integrated basic. My second was a computer I made up of parts (TTL chips) and an 80 Amp 8V DC power supply. 8 Z-80s at 8 MHz with an interleaved 8-phase clock at 64 MB and 64 KB shared memory. 'console' was a hex keypad and hex LED displays. Programming was via machine code. Couldn't afford mass storage so I left it on. Now those were the days. I built it when I was a teenager after reading "2001 A Space Odessey" for the first time and wanted to learn how orbital mechanics worked: I needed a better calculator. It would do 128-bit integer math. I never needed to calculate a transfer obit to jupiter in real life but I leared a lot about math and electronics. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]