-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/13/06 08:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 05:53:17PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 12/12/06 16:30, Mike McCarty wrote: >>>> Ron Johnson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> My recollection of the 1980s MS-DOS world was that Turbo Pascal's >>>>> problems were it's small memory model and lack of modules until >>>>> v4.0, by which time C had already taken over. >>>> Who said anything about MSDOS? C took over when CP/M was the rage. >>>> "Modules" are just what I mentioned with respect to "separate >>>> compilation". >>>> >>>> The issue with Pascal is that it is completely unsuited to >>>> systems programming altogether, because it has no escape >>>> route from the strong typing, no provision for separate >>>> compilation, and uses interpreted p-code. > I'm not a systems programmer, I'm a DP programmer. Thus, I don't > give a Rat's Arse whether my language of choice is good for system > programming. In fact, I *like* B&D languages. Why? Not needing to >> ^^^ >> Bondage and domination? Sounds like what I call police-state languages
s/domination/discipline http://catb.org/jargon//html/B/bondage-and-discipline-language.html > worry about pointers and heaps and array under/overflows trampling > over core means that my jobs die less often, which is A Good Thing. > >> I like pointers and heaps and arrays. They really make it possible to >> organise my data in usable form. All depends on your problem domain. :) > I hate the way C makes it pretty well >> imposible to use these without desperate debugging nights. Amen. >> That's why I like p[olice-state languages that make these features >> available in a secure and efficient way. Yes, these languages do exist. >> In my opinion, the majority of the code in Debian could have been >> written more easlily, and more reliably, in one of these languages. We agree here, I think. C is *way* overused in non-system development. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFgBu/S9HxQb37XmcRAjQxAKCi4kvALjhki5/lNKVxOfAw212OQgCfYiPZ wqR9M8YTO9dXCKkx/cDqdLE= =DUA0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]