Thank you, everyone who offered suggestions and observations. I've got
KDE working, basically by using aptitude to remove the remaining bits
of gnome, and then (re)installing the kde meta-packages.

On Nov 28 2006, Tim Post wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 16:55 -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote:
> > I made the mistake of selecting 'workstation' when installing etch. It
> > managed to do the X installation correctly, without needing to be
> > rescued manually, which is way better than I've seen from earlier
> > debians. That's the good news. The _bad_ news is that it installed
> > gnome, and apparantly only gnome.
> 
> I've done that .. especially when tired and needing to deploy a bunch of
> desktops.
> 
> > I used aptitude to select any packages that looked like they might be
> > part of kde, and remove any packages that looked like they might be
> > part of the guts of gnome.  The result is a mess. I appear to be
> > running kdm (according to ps), but the result has the look and feel of
> > nothing much. If it's kde, it's sure changed - a lot. 
> 
> You may have inadvertently installed a very broken KDE which would be
> hard to do. Aptitude goes to some lengths to try and stop you from
> breaking anything, and the KDE packages have very intricately woven
> inter-dependencies.

I think this is precisely what I did, probably by not using the
highest level metapackages - and also by not completely extirpating
gnome first - I didn't know to look for things with names like
'nautilus'.

> That being said, apparently you have found just the right combination of
> packages to install that results in something pretty useless. You may
> want to do a dpkg -l and send the output to the KDE developers, they may
> be interested to see your packages so that they can adjust dependencies
> thus preventing someone else from making the same mistake.
> 
> Just dpkg -l > /root/package.report.txt and send it along to them if you
> have time, with a screen shot of the current "mess" and description of
> it.

Unfortunately, I'd already started tinkering by the time I got this
message. I'm pretty sure I'd done something like installing kdm and
kde-core, rather than kde, but I'm not sure precisely
what. Unfortunately, that's not enough for a useful bug report, short
of trying to break things again - and I'm also uncertain whether I was
the only contributor to the resulting mess. (A coworker had attempted
to fix things using some GUI tool he found in X/gnome - which wound up
claiming that kde could not be found, after first offering to install
it - and may have messed up a few things while coming to this
conclusion. At that point, I took over, and switched to aptitude...) 


> Hopefully it results in a stable box. I think, personally .. I'd just
> repave the machine if possible just to ensure no "oddities" result, but
> I understand your reluctance to completely re-install Debian. Messes
> like this are rather aggravating.

I may yet wind up restarting from scratch, but I'm going to make sure
I find all the land mines first. I'll probably be back to the list
with more questions when I hit the next one. 

> Hope this helps.
> -Tim

-- 
Arlie

(Arlie Stephens                               [EMAIL PROTECTED])


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