To each their own BUT... This is only my 2 cents and I am sure most on this list will take it with a grain of salt. M$ gives me a job, pays the bills and I enjoy working with it and teaching people proper ways of using it but I also love the Debian world and am liking it more and more every day.
The main OS on my laptop is Debian with a second partition of XP just in case. I mostly do security work so the Debian is a no brainer and for the most part I can do everything I need to on my M$ boxes using TSClient/Rdesktop. Microsoft has come a long way and as far as stating that their OS is 'hardly ready' is far from the truth. I have watched this string since it started and finally decided to write something. If you look at their track record I agree...NT 3.5x, 4 were terrible OS's. Then came 2000 and even M$ will agree that it was the Millennium of the NOS world. NT4 was actually more secure than it is/was and that is why Microsoft is trying to push it out. Now look at 2003...it is rock solid in my thoughts unless you are looking at the WWW/HTML/.NET patches which were released recently but then again if you are looking at those and saying the OS is unsecure you must be running IE on your servers. Me, I never run ANY web browser on my servers and I don't think ANYONE should run any web browser on ANY server unless you are looking for trouble. I disable web browsing on my server and if I need to go out to the web I use a client or FTP from the command line. XP on the other hand does have some problems. I totally agree with everyone who says M$ is troubled but I DO NOT AGREE with they are not unsecure or ready. M$'s OS is ready...if you want some WWW Sites or servers which you think you can hack or take down let me know and I will setup a couple and let you go at it. If you hack them cool tell me how I can better my security if not score one for M$ and let it be. Just remember this...your OS is only as secure as you are and if you do not know how to secure it you shouldn't be using it. Me, I am here learning about Debian, I know *NIX is superior to M$ and I love using Solaris and Debian...I threw Pay Hat out the door as soon as they went to their Pay system...who does that look like? Not to mention there are several Windows Themes out there for Red Hat. They are trying to be like M$ just because they know how successful M$ was/is and will be with their OS. I wish Linux would show up more on the desktop but it is taking time. MAC OS is out there on the desktop more than any other Linux distro but they have the marketing down pat as well as money to throw at it and I would be surprised if it surpasses M$ some day but that is not going to happen anytime soon. -Stephen -----Original Message----- From: Scarletdown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 3:29 AM To: debian Subject: Re: [OT] M$ collaborates with Suse On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 16:04 +0100, steef wrote: > the fear of microsoft to get kicked out of markets. > We can only hope that may be the case some day. After all, Windows is hardly ready for the desktop let alone the server markets. :D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]