On Sat, 2006-09-02 at 11:52 +0200, T wrote: > Start accusation without even trying to understand what others are trying > to do is not a good way to help. What you said you were trying to was fairly simple - have postfix forward mail to your ISP. You didn't mention authentication before. I simply searched as you said you did and showed you what I found.
> > Just because you know sendmail much better than the other MTAs (if you > > don't know how to setup a relayhost in postfix then I take it you don't > > know much else about postfix), doesn't mean sendmail is really easier. > > It's just easier for you. > > Start accusation without even read what I said is even worst. As I said, > I'm just a normal user, not an expert on any MTA at all. You didn't say that. You said "speaking from my heart breaking experiences, is that if you are a normal user" and then "Just yesterday, I noticed my well configured sendmail......Good luck to troubleshoot this with postfix, exim, etc." which made it sound like you know your stuff with Sendmail but are unfamiliar with Postfix. > What I meant is, from an end user point of view, that it is more likely > for me to *find* answers to my problems in sendmail than any other MTAs, > because it is widely used and thoroughly discussed. Fair enough. > >> My suggestion, speaking from my heart breaking experiences, is that if > >> you are a normal user, not a mail expert or system admin who need to > >> play with mail configuration as you full time job, stick with sendmail, > >> and keep away with postfix, exim, etc. > > > > I don't understand your logic. An full time mail admin would easily get > > his head around any MTA, and might opt for sendmail because of it's > > configurability. But an ordinary user who don't know much about how > > mail works? > > yes, go figure out the steps setting up Postfix/SASL/TLS yourself by > reading the man pages, Again, you only mentioned making your MTA deliver mail to your ISP. The steps you posted in reply to Steve Lamb's post, tells my yout tried to setup Postfix not as a client talking to a remote server, but as a server accepting connections from clients using TLS and SASL auth. The former is quick to set up, the latter can be quite a nightmare, in part because SASL is not as "Simple" as the name suggests. Please understand that I did not not try to attack or accuse you of anything. You post made it sound like Postfix was really complex to set up and that information and help is not available - I merely pointed out that that is really not the case, and gave you the links for the things you wanted to - hoping that might send you in the right direction. I am not an expert on any MTA. Work with a variety of MTAs - whatever clients happen to have. More often than not I have to consult the documentation to get the job done. I do find Sendmail to be more tricky simply because things aren't always as obvious as with Postfix and Exim's almost-plain-english config files, but all four certainly have a wealth of information available online, and busy mailing lists that are helpful. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
