Hello all, again. Sorry that I keep posting to my own messages.
I could deal with no Sound for a month, but I really need them damn video capture to work. I guess I could try to manually add the device with mknod and then not reboot, but that is indeed a hack. forcing the downgrade of udev will force the downgrade of hal which will will force the downgrade of gnome-volume-manager which will force the downgrade of gnome-desktop-environment. This is all ok if it works properly. (My problems with gnome before were stickies always opening in the wrong position & size, and more anoying nautalis crashing periodically leaving me with no main menu, no desktop etc..) What is the most painless way (using apt I hope) to downgrade my gnome-desktop-environment and all it depends on back to sarge versions? (most importantly udev itself) (manually dpkg --force-downgrade for each dependancy sounds very painful) Thanks all. .b. On Wed, May 3, 2006 9:38 am, B. Bogart said: > Hi again, > > So after a little more digging I see that my third video capture device (bttv) is also not working, in fact according to the kernel and dmesg it is registered to /dev/video2, but there is no such device file. > > So I bet udev is not working right, not creating the correct devices for sound, nor for this video card. > > So I guess gnome-desktop-environment depends on a new version of udev. > > How can I get back my old sarge udev without breaking the other packages? > > Or fix etch udev so that it works (at least for my video capture and sound). > > Help! > > Thanks, > B. > >> Hey all, >> I'm running debian sarge (i386) with a couple unstable/testing packages on an AMD64. I had sound working fine on my via82xx with the same kernel >> (2.6.13-ck5) under oss before upgrading gnome. >> All I did today was change my gnome-desktop-environment to testing (etch) as it was buggy with my old sarge/unstable mix of packages. I upgraded using: >> apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment >> I had to manually reinstall libgconf2-4 (from etch) using dpkg to get apt to install gnome without package errors. >> Now those old bugs are gone from gnome, but now sound is no longer working (from any application, through OSS or ALSA) >> I've only changed the packages gnome directly depends on, I'm using the very same kernel (compiled with both oss, and alsa as modules). I installed alsa to give that a try (via apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils), which seems to have disabled the oss stuff (I don't see any >> oss modules in lsmod output) and I do see the appropriate alsa modules. alsaconf finds the card and tried to configure it, all seems well until: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /usr/sbin/alsaconf >> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss >> snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-via82xx snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc >> snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device. >> Building card database... >> alsa finds the correct card... >> Configuring snd-via82xx >> Do you want to modify /etc/modprobe.d/sound >> (and /etc/modprobe.conf if present)? >> Yes. >> OK, sound driver is configured. >> Ok. >> Running update-modules... >> Loading driver... >> Setting default volumes... >> Saving the mixer setup used for this in /var/lib/alsa/asound.state. /usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1163: No soundcards found... >> =============================================================================== >> Now ALSA is ready to use. >> For adjustment of volumes, use your favorite mixer. >> Have a lot of fun! >> So It autodetected the right soundcard, adds stuff to the modules.conf and then can't access the device any longer. >> Stopping alsa gives me: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop >> Shutting down ALSA...warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1163: No soundcards found...'...Invalid card number. >> Usage: amixer <options> command >> Available options: >> -h,--help this help >> -c,--card N select the card >> -D,--device N select the device, default 'default' >> -d,--debug debug mode >> -n,--nocheck do not perform range checking >> -v,--version print version of this program >> -q,--quiet be quiet >> -i,--inactive show also inactive controls >> -a,--abstract L select abstraction level (none or basic) >> Starting alsa gives me: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start >> Setting up ALSA...Invalid card number. >> Usage: amixer <options> command >> Available options: >> -h,--help this help >> -c,--card N select the card >> -D,--device N select the device, default 'default' >> -d,--debug debug mode >> -n,--nocheck do not perform range checking >> -v,--version print version of this program >> -q,--quiet be quiet >> -i,--inactive show also inactive controls >> -a,--abstract L select abstraction level (none or basic) >> I used the same configuration from the stock debian kernels as a starting point for my custom ck kernel. >> What got installed with gnome-desktop that killed my sound? >> Any suggestions? >> (Is there a debian-alsa list? I could not find one on the debian site) Thanks all. >> Here are my loaded modules: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod >> Module Size Used by >> snd_seq_dummy 3716 0 >> snd_seq_oss 30464 0 >> snd_seq_midi 8480 0 >> snd_seq_midi_event 6912 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi >> snd_seq 47504 6 >> snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event >> snd_via82xx 26560 0 >> gameport 14856 1 snd_via82xx >> snd_ac97_codec 73340 1 snd_via82xx >> snd_pcm_oss 46496 0 >> snd_mixer_oss 16768 1 snd_pcm_oss >> snd_pcm 81288 3 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 23172 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm >> snd_page_alloc 10248 2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm >> snd_mpu401_uart 7168 1 snd_via82xx >> snd_rawmidi 23584 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_mpu401_uart >> snd_seq_device 8332 5 >> snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi >> snd 51588 11 >> snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore 9312 1 snd >> nvidia 3712388 12 >> ipv6 229312 10 >> bt878 10168 0 >> tvaudio 21148 0 >> i2c_viapro 7952 0 >> bttv 150928 1 bt878 >> firmware_class 9856 1 bttv >> parport_pc 33092 0 >> parport 33608 1 parport_pc >> reiserfs 208752 2 >> ext3 125064 0 >> jbd 54040 1 ext3 >> joydev 9152 0 >> mousedev 11168 1 >> tsdev 7232 0 >> evdev 8960 1 >> pcspkr 3800 0 >> tda9887 12944 0 >> tuner 34600 0 >> cx8800 30220 0 >> cx88xx 55712 1 cx8800 >> video_buf 20740 3 bttv,cx8800,cx88xx >> ir_common 8196 1 cx88xx >> tveeprom 11664 2 bttv,cx88xx >> v4l1_compat 13444 1 cx8800 >> v4l2_common 5888 2 bttv,cx8800 >> btcx_risc 4872 3 bttv,cx8800,cx88xx >> videodev 9344 3 bttv,cx8800,cx88xx >> shpchp 86500 0 >> pci_hotplug 27188 1 shpchp >> amd64_agp 12104 1 >> agpgart 33096 2 nvidia,amd64_agp >> psmouse 30468 0 >> raid5 20736 0 >> xor 14600 1 raid5 >> raid1 17664 1 >> raid0 8320 0 >> md_mod 60752 4 raid5,raid1,raid0 >> eth1394 19080 0 >> sk98lin 149984 0 >> sr_mod 16292 0 >> sbp2 22664 0 >> sd_mod 18192 4 >> ide_cd 39556 0 >> cdrom 36384 2 sr_mod,ide_cd >> ide_disk 16512 0 >> ide_generic 1408 0 [permanent] >> pdc202xx_new 8192 0 [permanent] >> aec62xx 7040 0 [permanent] >> alim15x3 11020 0 [permanent] >> amd74xx 13340 0 [permanent] >> atiixp 5904 0 [permanent] >> cmd64x 10908 0 [permanent] >> cs5520 4736 0 [permanent] >> cs5530 5376 0 [permanent] >> cy82c693 4612 0 [permanent] >> generic 4612 0 [permanent] >> hpt34x 4992 0 [permanent] >> ns87415 4296 0 [permanent] >> opti621 4356 0 [permanent] >> pdc202xx_old 10240 0 [permanent] >> piix 9988 0 [permanent] >> rz1000 2688 0 [permanent] >> sc1200 6912 0 [permanent] >> serverworks 8712 0 [permanent] >> siimage 11136 0 [permanent] >> sis5513 14600 0 [permanent] >> slc90e66 5632 0 [permanent] >> triflex 3840 0 [permanent] >> trm290 4228 0 [permanent] >> floppy 54996 0 >> usb_storage 59456 0 >> via82cxxx 12444 0 [permanent] >> ide_core 115688 28 >> ide_cd,ide_disk,ide_generic,pdc202xx_new,aec62xx,alim15x3,amd74xx,atiixp,cmd64x,cs5520,cs5530,cy82c693,generic,hpt34x,ns87415,opti621,pdc202xx_old,piix,rz1000,sc1200,serverworks,siimage,sis5513,slc90e66,triflex,trm290,usb_storage,via82cxxx ohci1394 32564 0 >> ieee1394 95544 3 eth1394,sbp2,ohci1394 >> fbcon 34432 71 >> tileblit 2432 1 fbcon >> font 8448 1 fbcon >> bitblit 4992 1 fbcon >> vga16fb 12360 1 >> vgastate 8576 1 vga16fb >> usbserial 28776 0 >> usbhid 31456 0 >> usbkbd 6784 0 >> ehci_hcd 30600 0 >> uhci_hcd 30736 0 >> usbcore 109692 7 >> usb_storage,usbserial,usbhid,usbkbd,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd >> thermal 13704 0 >> processor 23484 1 thermal >> fan 4740 0 >> sata_via 8580 3 >> sata_promise 10244 0 >> libata 43780 2 sata_via,sata_promise >> scsi_mod 134504 6 >> sr_mod,sbp2,sd_mod,usb_storage,sata_promise,libata >> unix 26032 468 > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". 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