On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:20:38 -0800
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Andreas Rippl wrote:
> > Which leads us to your options:
> 
>     Why does this hostile crap always come out to a simple request.  "Does
> this exist?"  If not why always, ALWAYS is it "write your own", "Live with
> what you get" or "get outta here"?  What is so hard with a simple, "No, it
> doesn't."  Jeez.

well, Steve, to be honest, I was offended by the responses you were giving to 
everyone's attempts to help you. Maybe its a simple misunderstanding, but 
here's my take on it. I put up the first response telling you "google is your 
friend" and pointing you to a debian admin article on traffic shaping. This is 
a subject that I don't know much about, but I'm interested to learn so I did a 
little research. a google of traffic shaping and debian came up with tons of 
responses that all looked useful. I followed a few of them and came to the 
realisation that 1) its a big subject with many tools and 2) if you did what I 
did you'd likely find what you needed. You mentioned nothing in your original 
post about google and it apparent inadequacies. Your response to me was a very 
abrupt "google is not my friend and rarely is my friend" (paraphrasing) which 
is immaterial and also not my problem. Then you went on to question whether *I* 
had done adequate research into *YOUR* problem. This was followed up with 
repeated trashing of those tools that are out there. 

Sorry man, but that just rubbed me the wrong way. Your responses to others have 
been in the same vein. I'm sorry if we haven't been of any help to you. We 
tried. We made some suggestions on where to look and tried to provide a 
solution that we thought fit your requirements. You mentioned apache, so one 
respondent put up an apache solution. Doesn't work for you and that's fine, but 
its not his responsibility to go find *YOUR* ultimate solution, but only to 
provide what help he deems appropriate. 

To answer your question above, "Does this exist?" Well, apparently none of us 
actually know, and since you're the one with the list of requirements, its up 
to you to decide based on the evidence whether one does or not. Since it 
appears nothing quite fits your bill, then a simple, "Well, nothing quite fits 
what I'm looking for, but thanks for your suggestions" is all that is required. 
And it leaves a nice record for the next person to come along looking for 
Netlimiter functionality.

Meanwhile, Andreas is right: based on your responses, nothing existing is going 
to work for you which leaves you with the choices he gave you. Is it hostile? 
yeah, probably a little, but no less hostile that your responses have been in 
this whole thread. 

FTR, I'm just laying it out as I see it. I'm human and fallible and do not mean 
to offend. I'm trying to explain my interpretation of what is likely a big 
communication breakdown.

best

Andrew
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