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From: hugo vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mar 21, 2006 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: SATA drive probs: Knoppix OK, but nothing else
To: Hex Star <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
So if you install lilo, have it installed, you get a
script "mkrescue" with it. (It's in /usr/sbin in my
system).
On a command line in a virtual console or in xterm or
in konsole, etc. enter "mkrescue --iso".
That creates an iso image of the lilo bootloader with
2 menu items: the image of the current active lilo,
and the image "hard disk".
"Hard disk" is actually the menu of lilo that you run
on the partition that you are on. There is where you
have to edit /etc/lilo.conf.
You run cdrecord on that iso, e.g:
cdrecord -v dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 blank=fast mkrescue.iso
Lilo.conf presumably has your windows stuff and linux
stuff on it.
So when you boot from that rescue CD you avoid booting
the actual MBR and get a menu with 2 things:
Linux
Hard Disk
Select Hard Disk and you will see the menu you usually
see with Lilo: it will have windows, Linux etc.
If you have the right HD SATA controller modules
loaded
it will boot with your SATA drive active and avoid a
BIOS check on that drive because of the parameter that
you included.
I am running that right now.
Still cannot *boot* from the SATA though, and I always
have to boot from a CD. But you can edit mkrescue to
automatically boot from Hard Disk, so you see
Hard Disk
Linux
and then you boot automatically from wherever you do
that on your regular lilo.
Regards,
Hugo
--- Hex Star < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> great, would like some clarification though...where
> did you type "mkrescue
> --iso"? would this work under knoppix? how did you
> edit the lilo.conf in the
> iso image? and finally, when you select boot from
> hd, does that allow the
> lilo bootloader on the hd to run properly or does
> that load a bootloader
> from the rescue cd itself (and in which case I
> assume it wouldn't permit me
> to chose between windows and debian, but just
> debian?)? Thanks for the
> updates! :-)
>
> On 3/19/06, hugo vanwoerkom
> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I got it running. But with a rescue CD.
> > This is what I did:
> >
> > 1. I use Lilo, not grub, so I use "mkrescue --iso"
> to
> > gen. an iso image.
> > 2. I add to lilo.conf
> "suppress-boot-time-BIOS-data"
> > as a global option.
> > 3. With cdrecord I put that iso on a CD and boot
> from
> > that CD.
> > 4. Then on boot he shows a menu of 2 items: the
> kernel
> > image you were running with when you ran mkrescue,
> and
> > "hard disk". You can select either one but "hard
> disk"
> > shows the usual options that you use.
> >
> > Bingo, he boots bypassing the BIOS check where he
> used
> > to hang.
> >
> > That WD disk mounts for me as /dev/sda. So you can
> use
> > "cfdisk /dev/sda" to partition it.
> >
> > I'll next see if I can put a partition on the WD
> disk
> > and boot it.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hugo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Hex Star <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Ah, well I got my PC off eBay and the person who
> > > sold it custom built it
> > > from parts he had laying around (and hey who can
> > > complain, a AMD Athlon
> > > 600MHz computer for $90 isn't bad at all,
> especially
> > > since it came with a
> > > working HD, graphics card, and sound card and
> even
> > > had a OS installed on it)
> > > and it seems to have a mystery Gateway mobo...as
> in,
> > > it has some kind of a
> > > unidentafiable Gateway mobo that can take AMD
> > > processors (and I can't seem
> > > to find any traces of Gateway ever making a
> computer
> > > that used AMD
> > > processors), even running the Gateway mobo ID
> tool
> > > on the computer comes up
> > > with nada :-o...all I know is that it has some
> 1998
> > > BIOS, perhaps you know
> > > of a Gateway PC series/model that used AMD
> > > processors?...I think the SATA
> > > RAID PCI controller I put in for my 300GB HD
> though
> > > can have its BIOS
> > > updated since according to the manual it has a
> > > flashable BIOS chip on it,
> > > haven't tried though since before I tried
> running
> > > Debian it was working
> > > OK...have you tried Grub? If so what happened?
> When
> > > I tried Grub it woulld
> > > boot up to stage1.5 and then give me a error 17
> > > which according to the Grub
> > > manual means Grub is trying to mount a partition
> > > that exists but it's a
> > > partition Grub doesn't know how to handle (and
> since
> > > I've been trying to
> > > multiboot Debian with XP on the same HD,
> seperate
> > > partitions, makes it sound
> > > like Grub was trying to for some reason mount
> one of
> > > the Windows NTFS
> > > partitions...despite me and some people in the
> > > debian IRCs attempts to try
> > > and make sure that it's only mounting the Debian
> > > partitions, probably
> > > another bug or my SATA RAID PCI controller, let
> me
> > > know what happens with
> > > you when you try grub). I've tried numerous
> times
> > > reinstalling the Debian
> > > bootloaders, I even tried installing Lilo on its
> own
> > > partition and I still
> > > got the 999s :-( and no matter how many times I
> > > reinstalled Grub, either via
> > > the Debian installer CD or via Knoppix it would
> > > still give a Error 17.
> > >
> > > On 3/19/06, hugo vanwoerkom
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I posted to comp.os.linux.hardware.
> > > > Did you say what kind of motherboard you have?
> > > > What if it is a BIOS problem? Grub, Lilo need
> BIOS
> > > to
> > > > load the bootrecord and no bootloader will
> run.
> > > You
> > > > tried Grub?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Hugo
> > > >
> > > > --- Hex Star <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey, yeah good idea reporting this as a bug,
> > > which
> > > > > I'm sure it
> > > > > is...hopefully they'll fix this issue and
> then
> > > I'll
> > > > > be able to enjoy Debian
> > > > > on my PC :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/18/06, Hugo Vanwoerkom
> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hex Star wrote:
> > > > > > > Wow, and my WDC HD is also connected
> through
> > > a
> > > > > two port SATA RAID PCI
> > > > > > > adapter...only difference is that it's
> > > 133...I
> > > > > see lots of similarities
> > > > > > > between our setups here...so obviously
> > > there's
> > > > > something about this
> > > > > > > setup that Debians bootloader setup
> doesn't
> > > > > like...:-(...lemme know
> > > > > > > please if trying lilo 1: 22.6.1-7+b1
> from
> > > Sid
> > > > > and backporting to Sarge
> > > > > > > works, thanks! :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Booting lilo 22.6-1-7+b1 generated from
> > > Knoppix
> > > > > with SATA drive
> > > > > > connected produces same 999's. :-(
> > > > > > We ought to stay in touch off-list.
> > > > > > Contact me at hugo van woerkom (all one
> word)
> > > at
> > > > > yahoo dot com.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have reported the failure to
> installation
> > > > > reports of the Etch Beta 2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am going to file a lilo bug report with
> the
> > > -v 5
> > > > > output from the
> > > > > > Knoppix run.
>
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