On Sunday 08 January 2006 10:30 am, Steve Lamb wrote: > Chris Howie wrote: > > And if that's the case then you select both of them during the install. > > On an advanced install that's exactly what you do. > > > Except that Debian put Gnome there when all I selected was "Desktop > > environment." Come on, you know that Linux users tend to value > > specificity. WHICH desktop environment? > > Whichever you decide the first time *you* log in. > > > I would be very happy to see the tasksel setup show > > exactly what is being installed, e.g. > > > > * Mail server (Exim) > > * Web server (Apache 2) > > * Desktop environment (X.org, KDE, Gnome) > > * DNS server (Bind 9) > > Tasksel is for the neophytes. If you don't want the neophyte answers > use the tools better geared to your experience level. > > > And really, > > how bad can a separate option for KDE and Gnome be? > > It's a largely unneeded question and added complexity. > > > I mean, while we're getting KDE and Gnome, why not icewm, xfce4, and > > fluxbox? > > Show me neophytes who are using icewm, xfce4 or fluxbox. Generally > what do they want "Something like Windows" as that is what they're used to. > The two realistic options are the default. > > > How hard can it be to give the user a choice during the install, and why > > is that such a stupid idea according to you? > > You are given a choice. You just refuse to see that.
Steve, rather than defending the status quo perhaps you could bend a little and hear the request being made in a different light. Having the tasksel options is a great feature and perhaps can be improved without adding too much complexity. To me it is as if the current install process is designed to serve two extreme cases: the guru and the know-nothing newbie. Many (most?) of us are between those extremes. I spent days trying to figure out how to remove Gnome and leave KDE in a working state. When I gave up that approach, I tried the guru install thinking I'd avoid having to mess with Gnome at all and just get KDE installed, but the number and detail of the questions presented was just too overwhelming. I never found a combinations of settings that worked. (Strangely, I would have preferred just Gnome and no KDE; but KDE ran fine and Gnome was unstable. I still don't know why). Cheers, Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
