On Sunday 01 January 2006 08:20 pm, Rogério Brito wrote: > On Jan 01 2006, Mitchell Laks wrote:
> > How to dispense with it? > > Do you possibly have anything like ecb, semantic, eieio, speedbar-*, > cedet-* installed in your machine? If you don't have any use for them, > I'd suggest you to uninstall those packages. Dear Rogerio, I thank you for your comments, and you are right, I did a mega install once on this machine of all of the stuff i found in Quantian because I wanted "IT ALL". Every development thing. Hell of a lot of stuff. And there are many cool linux development toys, as we all know - thats why we LOVE debian! I periodically wondered about this slow start up issue. This time, after I wrote that message, I started googling and discovered how I can actually find out what happens in startup. I did C-x C-b and chose the buffer *Messages*. Indeed on the slow machine I was loading about 48 different things, all development stuff like semantic eieio etc. I am working on some open source development projects and hope to need some of them :). Now I noticed that in fact, over time, I had gotten rid of some of those things from my debian system, and while they were no longer on my system - like cedet-common, they still wanted to load in emacs and I was "wasting loading time" while it errored out. In fact, adding the cedet-common back onto my system made the loading faster (only 4 seconds now) :). So this suggests a few thoughts: 1) packaging flaws - stuff was removed and but still did not clean up side effects on emacs effects. 2) If I want to "keep" stuff but let them be loaded after emacs comes up, can that be done? It would seem that most of these things could rather be loaded after I am working, then I wouldn't notice the wait. Why must I wait 4 seconds up front? It takes me at least 4 seconds to get any text written, and it is annoying to watch the startup. 3) where in emacs can I control the load list. 4) for your amusement, I will show you the long list on my machine. It is truly embarrassing. I notice that I still get errors. For instance notice: ecb seems unhappy still. Loading 50a2ps (source)...done Loading 50aribas (source)...done Loading 50auctex (source)...done Loading 50autoconf (source)...done Loading 50cedet-common (source)... Loading advice...done Loading 50cedet-common (source)...done Loading 50dictionaries-common (source)... Loading debian-ispell... Loading /var/cache/dictionaries-common/emacsen-ispell-default.el (source)...done Loading debian-ispell...done Loading /var/cache/dictionaries-common/emacsen-ispell-dicts.el (source)...done Loading 50dictionaries-common (source)...done Loading 50eieio (source)...done Loading 50ess (source)... Loading regexp-opt...done Loading mule-util...done Loading ange-ftp...done Loading 50ess (source)...done Loading 50ftnchek (source)...done Loading 50gri-el (source)...done Loading 50gri-html-doc (source)...done Loading 50maxima-emacs (source)...done Loading 50mgp (source)...done Loading 50mpqc-support (source)...done Loading 50nowebm (source)...done Loading 50octave (source)...done Loading 50preview-latex (source)...done Loading 50tramp (source)...done Loading 50yacas (source)...done Loading 50yorick-auto (source)...done Loading 51ede (source)...done Loading 51preview-latex (source)... Loading preview-latex...done Loading 51preview-latex (source)...done Loading 51speedbar (source)...done Loading 52semantic (source)... Loading derived...done Loading /usr/lib/emacs/21.4/i386-linux/fns-21.4.1-x.el (source)...done Loading semantic-idle (source)...done [2 times] Loading ede-speedbar (source)...done Loading 52semantic (source)...done Loading 53cedet-contrib (source)...done Loading 53cogre (source)...done Loading 55ecb (source)... "/usr/share/emacs21/site-lisp/cedet-common/" added to `load-path' Error while loading 55ecb Loading semantic-el (source)...done For information about the GNU Project and its goals, type C-h C-p. call-interactively: Beginning of buffer [14 times] call-interactively: End of buffer > > > Hope this helps, Rogério.
