On Oct 12 2005, Alvin Oga wrote: > On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, kangja wrote: > > i don't understand all these variants. why not just continue with debian > > alone? > > because: > e) they don't know how to provide patches/enhancements/new-packages into > the main debian core
Please, don't spread FUD or incorrect facts, Alvin. I don't know if you have noticed, but some key Debian Developers now work for Ubuntu. If you don't believe me, see the changelogs of highly important packages like the glibc, gcc, python, GNOME, just to cite a few. Please, tell me again if you can really say that they "don't know" how to provide the enhancements to Debian. Perhaps you don't read changelogs? The Ubuntu people are synchronizing their work with Debian all the time and the few packages that don't have common maintainers with Debian proper have the patches available for anybody via web and a source control repository. I used to be afraid of using anything but Debian, but I am considering using Ubuntu for friends that want to experience something different from the Windows world. I still like Debian for my own use, though. Also, Ubuntu has taught some things to Debian proper: the fact that they have not proper maintainership, but all the developers can work on any package means that one of the worst problems that I see with Debian has just been solved. It is frequent the case in Debian where you file a bug (sometimes of high relevance *and* with a patch ready for comsumption) and the maintainer just sits there, doing nothing, sometimes for *way* more than one year. Do you want me to provide you with concrete examples or do you want them spoon-fed to you? This is frustrating to say the least. The solution that Debian has been adopting (as an evolution) is team-maintainership (see the vrms project on both the BTS and on svn.debian.org to see what I mean---actually see almost anything on alioth.debian.org and you'll get what I mean). I hope this helps to make you see the light that a different experiment can be a way to improve the original project. Just like egcs has been merged back into GCC. Regards, Rogério Brito. P.S.: Here goes a disclaimer: I was almost prepared to fork vrms as I saw the sad state in which it was. Thankfully, Bdale Garbee was kind enough to understand the situation and agree with team maintainership for the package, of which I am now a joint admin (with bdale) on alioth. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
