Kent West wrote: > I'd rather have a consistent habit across the machines.
Key words, consistent habit. The habit is the important part, not how it is achieved. I have the same habit with su. > Which implies that you're firing up an xterm, "su"ing and doing your > command, then exiting out of "su" after each command, never leaving a > terminal window running as root most of the time. Ya got it! Except that I don't exit after every command. I exit after every operation. Far more convenient than having to sudo every command esp. when doing work in protected directories. > Granted. But the original claim which I dispute was not that "other > methods provide similar benefit to sudo"; the claim was that "sudo > provides no benefit on a single-user machine", with which I disagree. Fine for you to disagree. Not that you have given any examples where it helps in the claim which is that in a single-user machine it provides no benefit. Operative words, single-user machine. > So, I'm confused. Are you saying that the logging capability of sudo > provides a benefit on a single-user machine (my claim), or not (the > original claim)? I pointed out that sudo provides logging. You got into the semantics of logging "Ah-HA, you said only who and what, but it also includes WHEN!" My original point regardless of which W word attached to it is that sudo provides logging of whom did what. In a single-user machine that is known. Let's see.... Only I have access to root. It must've been... Kernel Kustard in /dev/audio with gcc that changed my apache.conf file! Nope, sorry, I know whom did it... ME. I know what I did. I was there doing it! I don't need logging to tell me that! > However, if one > person, anywhere, finds sudo to be of benefit on a single-user machine, > then the claim that there is "*NO* benefit of sudo" is simply incorrect. > (I myself am such a person, so this is not just a hypothetical possibility.) Just becaonse one person finds benefit doesn't mean the benefit is real, tangible and generally applicable. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. -------------------------------+---------------------------------------------
signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature