On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:22:33 -0400 Hal used the keyboard to craft this: >|On Thursday 25 August 2005 11:28 pm, Wulfy wrote: >|> Antonio Rodriguez wrote: >|> >These people are the guides. If they thought as the rest of the guided >|> >humans, the future would be blackly dark, as when under a >|> >thunderstorm. They have created Debian by not listening to the >|> >multitudes. The multitudes lack vision. >|> >|> When this vision is shared openly, joyfully and with respect to all, it >|> is a beautiful thing. But when it's shared with snide remarks, put >|> downs and arrogance, how is it different from any other Big Brother >|> bullying? Alienating the people you are trying to help will not make >|> people understand. >| >|True guides don't need to share with snide remarks. As I said to someone else >|in an off-list reply: >| >|Most, if not all of the people I'm referring to -- the ones that seem to love >|to patronize others who aren't using the same "uber-geek" programs and >|systems they are (I guess that makes them feel superior or something), are >|not the creators. It is merely those who want to piss on the local trees to >|say to everyone else, "Hey, I'm an uber-alpha-geek, look at me with awe. Be >|as impressed with me as I am with myself." >| >|The forum then, in a discussion like this, becomes nothing more than a pissing >|contest with some trying to prove their superiority by throwing at the rest >|of us the most excrement. >| >|Hal >|
Do you really believe that? I think it's all about whether you want to have the work done for you, and be without the choice to do it as you want. Some want to be led, which is fine, but if you would like a different view from the following dog, you can step to one side and pioneer a new path or take the lead. It seems it has nothing to do with being geeky, I certainly am not, and no one knows it all. That's why Linux, put it out there for everyone to adapt, modify, improve or wreck, you choose. Linux, the choice system, and Debian the most of all from what I can see. It appears to me that you are bringing other things into this vote. Just enjoy Linux in all its flavours, but remember always that the reason most of us are here is not because we are geeks, but because we love having the choice, even if we choose to be constantly learning. Constantly trying to see how things work, even when we see that we will never have it all in hand; and hope of that is disappearing over the horizon with its arse on fire. [are you allowed to write arse on this list?] Personally, I will always vote for choice, not control. That's what the vote comes down too. Freedom of choice or control. The latter is unacceptable for me. There are enough controls in life already. Charlie +++++++ Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "We choose our joys and sorrows long before we experience them." -- Kahlil Gibran (1883-1931) *********************************************** Starting to really enjoy Linux Debian Sarge _____________________
