How kind of you all to offer your "beep" and "ditty" solutions, I will have to try them next time I break out the 8 woody CDs.
However your suggestions of print(1) and echo(1) do not fill the bill as I want a way to get the little speaker to beep due to #2: 1. with standard tools 2. from a batch script not connected to any terminal 3. don't have to be root, however yes, a running X as a regular user Dan> I used to do the below, but now: Dan> $ echo -e \\a > /dev/console Dan> bash: /dev/console: Permission denied -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]