13 May 2002 04:00:48 -0500 "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 01:27, Miroslav Mazurek wrote: > > 12 May 2002 23:55:36 -0500 "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 19:42, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Isn't this all rather academic, since Miroslav has a _386_ with > > > > > only SIXTEEN MB RAM? Running X would be folly!! Not only is the > > > > > CPU old and slow, but so is the RAM, HDD, video card, etc. And > > > > > the HDD will tiny!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > sufficient X to have multiple term windows open at once. He won't be > > > > running > > > > KDE or what not, but that is not a requirement. Web browsing, simple > > > > file > > > > editing, etc can be done there. My first Debian machine was a 486 dx2 > > > > 66 with > > > > 16 megs of ram and a 800mb (top of the line for the time) hard drive. > > > > > > Your CPU was _much_ faster, you had 2x as much RAM, and I bet your > > > HDD was faster than Miroslavs. And, as I question in another post, > > > you were probably running the 2.0 (or lower?) kernel, and libc5, > > > both of which are much smaller than kernel 2.2 with libc6 2.2.x. > > > Don't forget the really old versions of XFree86 and gcc. > > > > > > In other words, RedHat 5.2 or what ever Debian was out then. He'd > > > have to find binaries from back then, since newer s/w assumes libc6 > > > > > > What would you _do_ with it, nowadays? > > > > > > The 2.2 kernel and apps like elvis and links or lynx in virtual > > > terminals would be great (well, adequate) though. > [snip] > > > > First of all, disk is IBM SCSI 2GB that seems pretty fast to me > > and provides enough space. > > The idea is to find how useful is such old box. If it can do some > > web browsing, mail and some simple word processing I'd be satisfied. > > No KDE or Gnome. Think of putting few such boxes in some public area > > and enable people (students) check their mail and surf. I don't want > > to pay M$ licenses. I thought, if it runs almost smoothly win95 (or > > 3.11) why not Linux. > > It's the 8MB RAM that concerns me. Can you upgrade the box to > 24MB? > > Remember, Win95, Win3.11 & older versions of the linux kernel and > libraries were a _lot_ smaller than they are now. > > > Secondly, I'm terrified when I see that people are using PIII/Athlon > > with 128MB and Win XXX for such simple tasks as POS. I don't think > > that you need GUI to run such SW and I hope that Linux is not going in > > that direction, too. > > I totally agree with you! > > > Thirdly, is there a way to use that box as X terminal? > > Sure... The 8MB of RAM will still _severely_ limit you. With 24MB > or 32MB RAM, you could easily run kernel 2.2, libc6, and dillo, a > lightweight GTK-based web browser. (If all that is allowed is web > browsing, then no need for a window manager. Check a long thread > in the regarding this subject in the debian-user archives from > approx. 2 months ago.) > > -- > +------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Ron Johnson, Jr. Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 | > | | > | "I have created a government of whirled peas..." | > | Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 12-May-2002, CNN, Larry King Live | > +------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe I made mistake before, but its 16MB (no further upgrade possible). -- Miroslav Mazurek, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
