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Greetings: I've reached my limit of tolerance with my voodoo3 (agp) card. I've concluded that it is impossible to make this card function well with *this* Debian GNU/Linux box. I'm considering Nvidia as a replacement. I realize that nv's are only driven by either x3.3.6 or x4.2 (according to the official xfree86.org website). I know that my up-to-date Woody box only sports x4.1. Please recommend a card I should consider from the list below to replace the voodoo3, that will be supported by 2.4.18 kernel and Woody's x4.1? Should I even consider Nvidia in light of another vendor's card that is in $100 (U.S.) range? Finally, is there a comprehensive guide to actually getting an nv card running and able to play games like tuxracer (without being root) by a hippie that doesn't grok (Greek) geek speak for Woody? This process of deciphering man pages, docs from google searches, and queries from anyone likely to have any clue of linux and xfree86 has been, at the very least, daunting. DRI, GL, openGL, Mesa--growl. Apologies to anyone slighted by my testy observations/experiences. Prices from www.tcwo.com: GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP 1 Year Warranty 67.00 GeForce2 Ti 64MB AGP 1 Year Warranty 94.00 PNY GeForce4 MX420 64MB AGP 1 Year Warranty 99.00 PNY GeForce4 MX440 64MB AGP 1 Year Warranty 129.00 TNT2 M64 32MB 4X AGP OEM 1 Year Warranty 39.00 tia - -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE81ExNZHBxKsta6kMRAiyTAKCkQCZBf3Llmys/BMlsA+WqW3lscQCg0s1v JULRhPLXGaXMYkb91vPzvgY= =DWBo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]