On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 12:45:57AM +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote: | According to my ADSL service provider, my connection to their gateway | is somehow "private",
This is mostly marketing-speak and quite meaningless. They are comparing their service with that of cable modems. Cable modems use some sort of bus archtecture such that most of your "connection" (physical and link layers) is "shared" with other hosts/subnets. ADSL uses a dedicated piece of copper (twisted pair) between your house and the "End Office". The same dedicated twisted pair your analog phone uses. The ADSL modem just uses carrier signals of a higher frequency than the phone, thus they can share the physical medium. Also, DSL uses ATM networks. (ATM is Asynchronous Transfer Mode) ATM is a Virtual Circuit design, as opposed to IP's Datagram design. Each virtual circuit has a dedicated amount of resources allocated to it for the lifetime of the circuit. Of course, this circuit ends at the end office or your isp where the IP datatgrams are extracted from the ATM cells and routed back to the "internet". Here's where the intended meanings from marketing become relevant : o cable modems share the same coax cable between a box in your neighborhood and your provider, thus is someone is using all the bandwidth on that line you don't get any The solution (that is used) : Limit all cable modems such that the sum of the capacities of all modems routing data on a given line is no more than the capacity of that line. This means that you are "guarunteed" a certain amount of bandwidth, but you can never use more than it, even if no one else is using it. o DSL lines are dedicated in the first place, thus you are guarunteed the advertised bandwidth all the time. Of course, line and weather conditions can affect what the maximum bandwidth on the line is anyways. My provider claims that, as a result, DSL is more secure than a cable modem. This is, obviously, bull. Here is an exceprt from http://www.frontier.net/about/pr050500.html (not the page I was looking for but contains the same information) In addition to providing the highest speeds possible over copper wires DSL provides you a secure, dedicated connection. This means your DSL connection is always on. [...] This type of dedicated connection is a secure access using dedicated facilities and reliability because the network is monitored around the clock. DSL is no more or less secure than cable because if you don't have a firewall, you're equally vulnerable. (even a firewall is only limited protect, for example use IE to browse a site infected with nimbda) -D PS. While looking for their explanation of why DSL is secure I found this. What a load of junk. http://frontier.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/frontier.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=NkUz-h8g&p_lva=&p_refno=000520-000009&p_created=958845848&p_sp=cF9ncmlkc29ydD0mcF9yb3dfY250PTE3JnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9RFNMIHNlY3VyaXR5JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9MyZwX3Byb2RfbHZsMT1_YW55fiZwX3Byb2RfbHZsMj1_YW55fiZwX2NhdF9sdmwxPX5hbnl_JnBfc29ydF9ieT1kZmx0JnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li= -- Many a man claims to have unfailing love, but a faithful man who can find? Proverbs 20:6