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On Friday 25 January 2002 6:12 pm, Randy Orrison wrote:

> Hmmm... I must have missed the easy way to set up my sound card in
> Debian.  In Windows, it was automatically recognised and configured and
> just worked.  Is there really an easier way in Debian?  Apparently (I
> haven't tried it) I have to actually either recompile my kernel, or at
> least a module, and choose which software to use...  I've been saving
> the messages on this list about sound setup, but it doesn't look like it
> will be anywhere near as easy as it was in Windows, never mind easier.
> I'll dive into it one day when I can allocate a few uninterruped hours.

Its getting better - since experimenting with devfs (I actually compiled the 
kernel) and the debian module devfsd everything is much more modular.  In 
fact all I had to do was create the following file /etc/modutils/akcmods
=====================
# AKC 10th Dec 2001
#  v1.0 Special alias file 

# These seem to be standard modules not covered.
alias net-pf-17 af_packet       #packet filter
alias char-major-6      lp

#NVdriver puts this in aliases - but better in here
alias char-major-195    NVdriver

#define sound card
alias /dev/sound        emu10k1

#define scsi host adapter
alias scsi-hosts        aic7xxx

#logitech joystick (? - not sure if I have right model)
alias /dev/joystick     adi

# Link my dvd drive 
alias /dev/dvd          ide-cd

# These two lines are in place because /etc/modutils/1devfsd then maps
# to the actual modules (and calls scsi-hosts - see above)
alias /dev/cdrom        /dev/sr0
alias /dev/cd-r         /dev/sg0
=====================

The alias /dev/sound tells the system what my sound card is and thats all I 
have ever had to do to get sound to work (in kde at least which is what I use)

[must admit I haven't had to get to the joystick yet - a logitech wingman 
force 3d so am not sure I have the right thing]

[although I have created /dev/cd-r  I've never used it as the CD burner has 
searched the hardware and found the device]
>
> And then there's my CD burner 

kcreatecd

>and my printer to set up, both of which
> "just worked" under Windows.

cupsys 

Although I did run the web based tool to create a link to the printer which 
happens to be on a windows box across my network.

>
> Part of the problem with all these is that there are _too_many_ choices
> for software support -- "apt-cache search sound | egrep '^alsa'" returns
> 26 packages, and then there's esd and asd and how many mixers?  It would
> go a long way to increasing the acceptance of Debian (and Linux in
> general, though I really don't know if others are any better) if the
> installer recognized and configured more hardware, and installed a
> reasonable default package to use it.  (As for recompiling a kernel --
> you must be joking!)

For me that range of tools is one of the plus points.  To make things simple 
I always fireup dselect rather than use the command line packaging tools.  
That way I can scan whats available.  With debian its so easy to install 
something, if you don't like it just take it out again.

>
> This isn't a flame, or a troll, or a request for help or advice (though
> the latter may follow); I'm just pointing out that there are things that
> are easier in Windows than Linux.  I've switched this machine to Debian
> from Windows NT and I'm not going back!  Also, I have already done a
> kernel compile for a different machine, it's not that bad for someone
> who is technically competent, but there's no way my mother would be
> capable of even contemplating doing it.

You would enjoy the Aunt Tillie thread on the kernel mailing list.

- -- 

  Alan - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk
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