On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 12:04:20AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.07.0526 +0100]:
> > Maybe because they are lamers who are used to crappy products and wont
> > notice that there speedy copied cd's are full of cracks and pops:)
> 
> i've use nero for years and never had a single broken cd. truly
> honestly... nero is an amazing product!

So you have been very very lucky:)

...
> clonecd and nero, and even adaptec cd creator always did real well! i am
> sorry to be praising win32 s/w, but i do have my reasons to be a little
> annoyed about CD burning on linux/unix...

I've used clonecd and adaptec cd creator and others and had my share of
problems:(  I dived into it and came to the conclusion that those probs
are inherent to the medium.

Audio CDs lack error correction compared to data CDs, the reading of
audio CDs is in itself error prone and many audio CDs have scratches,
so how on earth are you expecting to get good (and a mean real good,
bit for bit the same) copies without verifying the read tracks?  As
far as I know Nero doesn't do that, but instead relies on the second
layer error detection of the CD-reader which all too often simply lies
(depends on brand and model).  To complicate things audio CDs were
designed to be read in one sweep, but on the PC the ripping is done in
a series of smaller reads, and helas many a CD-reader isn't capable of
starting a single read at an exact location, so though all seperate
reads may be good, still the concatenated reads aren't correct due to
overlapping reads and small missing blurbs.

...
> of libparanoia (which is *not* a problem), but even with 24x cdda
> extraction, it almost doubles the time to duplicate a cd...

a small price to pay for guaranteed correct copies.

> > For the burning part, some people claim to hear the difference between
> > 1 or 2 speed written discs on the one hand and really fast written
> > discs on the other hand.
> 
> bollocks. and i can distinguish a punk rock recording on CD from 192kbps
> MP3s. yeah right. (i can actually tell 192kbps classical MP3s from CDs,
> not so at 224kbps anymore, and only beethoven, mahler, and verdi --
> which are the ones i know really well).

As I said *I* don't hear the difference but I've read the claim:)

-- 
groetjes, carel

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