On Tue, 04 Mar 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 11:32:34AM -0500, stan wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 06:15:02AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 08:37:02AM -0500, stan wrote: > > > > I did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade on some of my > > > > machines running testing, and I was surprised to not [pull patched > > > > sendmail binaries, based upon the announcement of a vulnerability > > > > in it yesterday. > > > > > > Testing doesn't have security updates, and has never been advertised as > > > having security updates. Are you volunteering? > > > > > > <sigh> Someone else running testing in a production environment. > > > > And my choices are? > > > > As I see them. > > > > 1. Run unstable, and have a broken system more often than not. > > 2. Run stable and have 1970's versions of software/ > > That's a hopeless exaggeration; I run stable happily on my home server. > Anyway, if you run testing you need to manage the security yourself by > backporting patches. I don't believe anyone will ever have told you > otherwise.
Just to join in... I'm typing this on a hopelessly crufty old IBM ThinkPad 570, running unstable. I happen to admin several machines running Stable, doing such things as application servers, database servers, development sandoxes, firewalls, and difficult-to-identify needed machines. Unstable is sometimes screwed up. Not for long, but it happens. My fonts under X are still fucked; when I have time, I'll make Gnome apps and mozilla happy. Stable environments are that. Security patches are there when needed. The latest version of YAWebSearchEnginePHP aren't. And I don't care that they aren't. For my desktop, Unstable is great. Sure, it is buggy sometimes. I've run Windows when it was buggy sometimes. For servers, Stable is great. I sometimes build daemons more current, and it still is a lot more pleasant than doing so under Solaris, AIX or, honestly, under FBSD (this from a serious FreeBSD fan.) If you broke your box running unstable, ask around and you can get answers to fix it. There's a reason why it is called unstable. Sorry, I'm in a bad mood. -j -- Jamie Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] "You're young, you're drunk, you're in bed, you have knives - shit happens." - Angelina Jolie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
