Karsten, Thanks for the tips, but it's not the root menu or window minimize that is the problem. Those I can do. It is the raise-lower-kill-whatever menu that is supposed to pop up somehow off the titlebar of each individual window that I can't find. Having the icon manager as a second method of minimizing and restoring windows doesn't seem to help.
With twm I can activate the desktop menu, launch, minimize, and restore. What I can't seem to do is to close (kill) any windows I launch! How do I scrape all these minimized twm xterm windows off my desktop? And, no smart remarks that killing X would do it! Cheers, Robin P.S. Nice online resume. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karsten M. Self" <kmself@ix.netcom.com> To: "Debian Users" <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 4:35 PM Subject: Re: easy twm question First, it's easy to test a window manager within another graphical environment by launching Xnest: $ Xnest :1 & $ twm -display :1 & The default Debian twm configuration binds the root window menu to left mouse. "Show Icon Manager" will show the icon manager. I like to add the following to my twmrc: IconifyByUnmapping # don't show windowicons, just use icon manager. RandomPlacement # opening windows isn't a drag. ShowIconManager # show icon manager at startup. To minimize a window, click the "circle in a square" icon, usually at top left of a window.