on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:20:50AM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:34:22PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > > I might add that I'm quite pleased with Galeon. > > > > After reading your review and seeing the screeshot (are those tabs what > I think they are???)
If you think they're other windows that I'm browsing at the same time,
which I switch to by selecting a tab, yes, they are.
Actually, it's slightly nicer than that.
- You can set default to open new tabs beneath current. Makes it easy
to open a series of links off a page and have them download in
background.
- You can open all bookmarks within a folder. In tabbed mode, this
opens a series of tabs with new windows. My morning news fix is
about 17 sites that I like to hit. One click gets 'em all, I can
then pick stories from the page, open these (backgrounded) and close
them as I go through 'em.
Tabs are quite nice.
Skipstone has tabs, but not a tab lable width limit (bitch for long
titles) or the bookmark features.
> I decided I had to try it. I changed my mind when I saw that it
> depends on GNOME crap. Can't I install a browser without installing a
> fscking "desktop environment"?
Yes. You can install Galeon without installing a desktop environment.
First, lets look at those deps. I've listed GNOME libs below -- there
are no non-library GNOME components required. Sizes in KB.
Package Size Description
--------------- ---- --------------------------------------------
gconf 1084 GNOME configuration database system. (daemon
and tools)
libgconf11 328 GNOME configuration database system libraries
libgnome-vfs0 1824 The GNOME virtual file-system libraries
libgnome32 131 The Gnome libraries
libgnomesupport0 40 The Gnome libraries (Support libraries)
libgnomeui32 961 The Gnome libraries (User Interface)
libgnorba27 85 Gnome CORBA services
liborbit0 572 Libraries for ORBit - a CORBA ORB
libxml1 436 GNOME XML library
liboaf0 168 The GNOME Object Activation Framework.
oaf 564 The GNOME Object Activation Framework.
libglade-gnome0 86 Library to load .glade files at runtime (Gnome
widgets support)
libglade0 119 Library to load .glade files at runtime
That's abount 6.4 MB of tools, most of which are shared among other
applications, and several of which are not GNOME specific. You should
be able to install Galeon w/o a full GNOME desktop installation (though
I've got GNOME installed largely of the purposes of testing and showing
off how GNU/Linux can appear). My primary desktop is WindowMaker, and I
don't particularly care for either the GNOME or KDE environments. I've
no need to run any Gnome apps or software (as opposed to library)
components. Galeon doesn't call up any GNOME applications, it doesn't
do things behind my back, and I don't have to invoke GNOME apps to
configure it.
What it provides is GNOME *enablement* without GNOME *dependency*, in
the sense of requiring the entire desktop environment be locked into
GNOME mode.
I've discussed GNOME deps with the Galeon developers previously. I
don't believe that deep linking of functionality is a win, we've been
through this over the 1990s with Microsoft -- and I say as much in my
browser description page.
If you can stifle your revulsion of all things GNOME for a few moments,
I believe you'll find that Galeon really is quite the slick little unit.
While alternatives exist -- notably Mozilla, Konqueror, and Skipstone,
each carries its own cross. Mozilla has its own broken
interdependencies, Konqueror is as much dependent on the base KDE
libraries (largely Qt) as Galeon is on GNOME. Skipstone has neither the
bloat nor the dependencies, but it offers a small fraction of the
functionality. TANSTAAFL.
> Guess I'll stick with mozilla.
Be my guest, but understand what you're missing.
--
Karsten M. Self <kmself@ix.netcom.com> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org
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