On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 02:28:38PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > If the person had enough experience (to be completely distinguished from > intelligence, these are totally different aspects [1]) to know what to post, > they would have done so in the first place. As he or she did not, I'm > asking for the data I would look for on my own system to resolve the > same issue.
The more I think about this, the more I agree with you. I think I'm disagreeing about the way to do it. Instead of just saying "post the output of 'cat /proc/foo | grep bar'" finish it off with "so I can tell if baz is happening." But you're right: it is annoying when people won't help you help them. > ...and if it wasn't mind-bogglingly obvious, taking out hits on idiots > was a bit of hyperbole (though I have to say the thought warms my heart > in dark moments....). Mmm. Taking out hits on idiots. (Said in best Homer imitation.) It warms my heart a little too. > My philosophy on support is to provide hints and guidance, not a crutch. > If the appropriate response is to read the man page on some command, > I'll say just that: "man foo". Of course. > I'll occasionally write a longer reply when it's philosophy more than > mechanics at hand (e.g.: here). Some of these I've compiled into FAQs > and micro-HOWTOs, currently I've got prepared texts on backups, > GNU/Linux books, partitioning, XDM disabling, SSH RSA key authentication, > Samba mounts, and sudo. Questions I've answered enough times, in enough > depth, to have a standard response. Jeff's Bug rant is close to > becoming same. Don't keep them to yourself. The nice thing about having a good manual written is being able to say rtfm when asked the questions (i.e. a pointer to your website or wherever you've published your answers.) Cheers, Chris -- IF I HAD A MINE SHAFT, I don't think I would just abandon it. There's got to be a better way. -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988.