Quoting Piotr Krukowiecki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > But let me quote: > > > Debian has to be built for people who *do* care, so advice that > > compromises security is not to be welcomed here > > For me it says sth like this: > Debian is only for users who care about security, so if you don't, we > don't want you here. > > I hope others don't think like that. > This irritated me, which influenced on the tone of my post.
It disappoints me that you appear not to understand my statement. Me: "Debian has to be built for people who *do* care" You: "Debian is only for users who care about security" The design of Linux and the configuration of Debian is aimed at people who have the highest regard for security. If that were not true, then those safety-concious people would leave the project, because you can't strengthen an insecure design. (You *can* relax the security on a secure system.) That design goal does not exclude anyone from using Debian just because they're not security-conscious. Me: "so advice that compromises security is not to be welcomed here" You: "so if you don't, we don't want you here" See the difference: "bad advice is not welcomed" does not mean "you are not welcomed". You originally asked how to make pppd stop removing it [g+w] ? I don't know the answer to that question, but I hope the answer is "you can't" because it opens a security hole. The fact that *you* don't mind about security holes doesn't mean there isn't a security hole and doesn't influence the developers' wishes to make a secure system. (That's why you will come across programs that will refuse to run if they find a file which has what they consider are the wrong permissions.) > That was no advice. It was a statement. I can't understand that bit. > So say how it should be, but don't say me how i should do it. With respect, I don't think I told you how to do anything. I did tell someone else that their advice (dialout group for PPP access) was wrong and that dip is right. You said dip was wrong. I disagreed. I gave you a possible workaround. I certainly didn't say you should use it. To summarise: You are welcome here. You are welcome to compromise the security of your system as much as you like. Please don't encourage others to do likewise. Please don't criticise people for pointing out any security weaknesses in other's advice. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
