%% "Noah L. Meyerhans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  nlm> Basically, I seem to recall the sysvinit maintainer saying that
  nlm> this is done simply to maximize the flexibility for the admin.
  nlm> Where other distributions and sysvinit based Unixes define some
  nlm> policy regarding what is started at what runlevel, Debian chose
  nlm> to start with all multi-user runlevels identical and let the
  nlm> admin customize them.

I don't get it.

The admin is just as free to customize the runlevels in all the other
sysv based Unixen as she is to customize the Debian ones.

It may seem at first glance to be a simple rule, "everything starts at
all runlevels 2-5", rather than trying to choose which runlevels do
what, but I think there are problems with this approach from a usability
and user expectation standpoint.

Consider that if you go look on comp.os.linux.x you'll see about ten
messages just this week advising people to boot to runlevel 3 if they
want to start up without XDM running.  That is the right answer and
works everywhere... except Debian.  In Debian, there is _no_ way to boot
without XDM without reconfiguring your system in some manner (removing
XDM, or using update-rc.d or rm/mv to modify your init setup).

I just don't think abdicating the responsibility of defining a basically
useful set of runlevels is in the best interests of users.  Any user who
knows enough to want to provide a specific set of runlevels for her
system is certainly advanced enough to figure out how to do it.  The
default setup should provide a usable and useful range of behaviors for
different runlevels--at the least it should be close enough to
"standard" UNIX that users can get expected behavior when following
general advice for UNIX, and not require that everyone include
Debian-specific caveats in their answers.

My $0.02.

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