On 4 Aug 2000, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: pelleg >As I've reported in another post, my system is locking sometimes. I pelleg >couldn't yet determine what is the problem, but something strange pelleg >happened today:
i havent been following this thread but i'll see if i have any ideas. pelleg >To see what could be the problem, I left the system with xmms running pelleg >while I was out for 4 hours. When I came back, the keyboard was pelleg >non-functionl, and nothing worked... Since it's a standalone box, I pelleg >hadto reset it. I was sort of expecting this (I was actually trying to pelleg >rule out some applications that could be locking the system) best thing to rule out first is X windows, disable X from starting: if you run X from a login screen like KDM/GDM/XDM remove the link: /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm and reboot the next time your system boots X will not load. you don't have to reboot but its easier then tryin to explain how to track down the processes and kill them the right way. pelleg >But at startup, it now makes strange complaints, like: pelleg > pelleg >modprobe: can't locate module # pelleg >modprobe: can't locate module are pelleg >modprobe: can't locate module with safe to ignore, that is the kernel module loader trying to find the modules. pelleg >But these are parts of commented lines in /etc/modules!!! many times the kernel will try to load modules even if they are not in /etc/modules again, its not a problem its just the system telling you it can't load what it can't find, no harm done. Either way the reports are harmless. pelleg >What could be happening? (I mean, why would it just ignore the pelleg >comments and treat them like listed modules to be loaded?) I can't imagine a reason why it would, something else may be wrong, but the end result is harmless. pelleg >It happens no matter which kernel I boot. pelleg >Anyway, since no modules were being loaded there, that wasn't much of pelleg >a problem... right :) pelleg > pelleg >But I did get also a "can't find modules.dep" mesage later (this is pelleg >fixed already) pelleg > another relativly harmless message. pelleg >I really don't understand what's going on... I suspected that my pelleg >memory could be bad, but I've compiled lots of big packages (including pelleg >several kernels, sometimes every two days), for months and never got a pelleg >sig11. check the kernel log /var/log/kern.log if the kernel encounters an error it will be reported there, assuming it is not a serious hardware problem which causes the machine to freeze before the kernel can report anything. pelleg >I'm beginning to suspect this may be: pelleg > pelleg >- PS/2 mouse (these locks began to happen after I got a new mouse) what brand/model of mouse? and what kind of mainboard? i had serious PS/2 trouble on an old AOpen AP5T-3, after a few months the PS/2 port worked intermittantly(sp) maybe one out of 10 boots and even then would cause random crashes, eventually i just moved to a serial mouse.(that motherboard is still in service after 3 years it currently runs mandrake7.0 and acts solely as a TV for my bedroom) pelleg >- X 3.3.6 (no problems happened with X 4) pelleg >- video card (SiS 6326 AGP) what video mode are you running in? and are you using a framebuffer X server? again i would reccomend not running X to see if X has something to do with it, X can be a very good center place for lockups. pelleg >This system (woody) worked fine for months... Could one single package pelleg >that I've upgraded lock X? (well X itself was upgraded recently...) if you run X, i would also suggest redirecting the output to a logfile, when you login run: startx >&X.log all output will be saved to X.log, if there is a crash check it to see if any helpful info is available. pelleg >(It locked with kernels 2.4.0-test5, 2.2.16 and some other that I pelleg >don't remember...) please include full hardware specs (if you have already i missed em:( ) pelleg >Not that I didn't expect to have crashes running woody, but... Locks pelleg >like this? Is this common? it can be, i had a Abit BP6 (Dual celeron) and had similar problems for over a year, it was a badly designed motherboard(wrong kind of voltage regulator) i replaced it recently with a new asus board and no more lockups. Also a couple days ago i had a few system crashes due to my 7200RPM SCSI drives overheating, once i put fans on them (3 fans on each drive) the crashes stopped completely. pelleg >Next thing I'll do is to compile X 4.0.1 and see if the problem goes pelleg >away. If it does, then (and I'd be surprised) it'd be an X-3.3.6 pelleg >problem... is it onboard video? if so do you have another video card to try? i wouldnt reccomend going to XF86 4.0.1 if you can avoid it its likely to be more buggy then XF86 3.3.6 for that video card(but i could be wrong) pelleg >I have to confess I am confused... i know how ya feel i spent 3 months troubleshooting the BP6! hope this helps! nate ::: http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7:50pm up 18 days, 3:17, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00