>It is not only newbies that can make stupid mistakes,
>and remove a
>floppy disk that is currently mounted...

I was taught in kindergarten /never/ to remove a disk
when the light was on, and I never do it.  Removing
while it is mounted but not currently being read or
written isn't very damaging--you just get an error
message, have to unmount and remount.

>Perhaps the real problem with soft ejects is that
current
>implementations make it to easy to override, eg when
the power is off.
>Personally, I think I would much prefer the risk of
not being able to
>eject a disk, rather then the risk that someday I
will accidently
>currupt an important disk by ejecting it when it is
still mounted.

This is more or less the same as saying "personally I
would prefer not to be able to delete a file, rather
than the risk that I someday will accidentally delete
something important."  Should your OS not allow you to
delete files manually?  It is generally good policy to
ask "are you sure you want to delete this file" but
there is always going to be a chance of deleting files
you need, no matter how many precautions are added,
short of simply not allowing user deletion of files.

>These protection devices not need to turn you into a
windows[1] user, I
>think it is just plain common sense. Other protection
mechanims
>already exist in Linux, eg you can't eject a CDROM
that is mounted (I
>guess this protects programs from crashing that are
currently using
>it), you can't e2fsck a mounted filesystem, etc.

But if you had a hard eject button, you could eject
the CDROM while mounted, (even if the OS didn't like
it) something I have needed to do plenty of times but
have been unable.

>Note:

>[1] Dos/windows copes with this problem in a
different (IMHO broken)
>way - it keeps track of which disk is inserted, and
if it needs to
>read/write to another disk, it complains to the user
to reinsert the
>original disk. Why is this mechanism broken? For
starters: some games
>will automatically eject a CD-ROM and ask you to
insert the next
>CD-ROM. For some reason, windows will often decide
that it still
>needed the original CD-ROM, and ask you to reinsert
it!!! It even goes
>as far as to suggest that the CD-ROM might be dirty.
Now thats what I
>call "machine is smarter"!!!

Everything windows does is (IMHO) broken.  That's my
point.  However, DOS doesn't have a problem with
taking media out whenever, as long as it doesn't have
the light on.  I've never had DOS ask for a different
disk (except for individual applications which ask for
the disk they need, not the last one in.)

The bottom line I'm getting at here is the idea that
these machines are here for our effective use.  They
make plenty of mistakes, always have and always will. 
So do we, of course, but /we/ are the ones paying for
our /own/ mistakes, whereas if we give the machine
power over the decisions, presuming it is infallible,
/we/ pay for /its/ mistakes.  If I'm paying for a
mistake, it damn well better be a mistake I made.  One
thing I've learned in life, don't put yourself in a
position of depending on someone else unless you're
sure they'll come through.  By that token, I also hate
others depending on me because if I don't come
through, somebody else is paying.  I should be the
only one paying for my mistakes, and only for mine.

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