I guess I could just use sudo. After trying that, it seems to be easier than getting all the permissions correct for the dialout group. For example, the /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/peers/* files are gid dip. That doesn't seem to jive very well with the "dialout" group.
Anyway, TkDesk seems to be fine with using "sudo" in .tkdesk/AppBar instead of the usual dsk_dial and up_cmd /usr/bin/pon /usr/bin/poff. So now I just click on the phone icon and it toggles the state (up|down) of the pppd daemon. Kinda cool. Can anyone think of any problems with running sudo instead of pon/poff? Isn't it safer to use the sudo setup instead of the dialout group? -- David S. Jackson http://www.dsj.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Remember that in order to recover as an artist, you must be willing to be a bad artist. Give yourself permission to be a beginner. --Julia Cameron
