On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 10:23:13PM -0500, JonesMB wrote:
> I am tired of FVWM95 and its apparent limitations and lack of new 
> development so I am ready for a new window manager.  Plus I wanna try 
> something new and maybe break my system :-)

As another poster has said, WindowMaker is VERY nice. With
Windowmaker, you get the best of both worlds. I run GNOME/GTK
applications (XMMS, gftp, gvim), KDE/Qt applications (kexpress, 
empath, licq), and WindowMaker applications (lots of cool dock apps 
like asclock, wmmon, etc, and wterm).

> 
> I am currently downloading gnome as I type this.  I considered KDE 
> and settled on gnome.  I am getting it from ftp.cybertrails.com using 
> apt.  This is my first attempt at downloading with apt rather than 
> dselect and it wasn't that hard.  The install page sAys I should 
> apt-get update then apt-get install task-gnome-apps task-gnome-net so 
> that's all I am doing.

You also need a GNOME compatible Window Manager. task-gnome-wm will
get most of them and a whole load of themes. Or you could just get
one: icewm, enlightenment, or wmaker (wmaker-gnome works well
with the panel). Check out
screenshots at icewm.themes.org, enlightenment.themes.org,
or wm.themes.org.

> 
> All you gnome users out there, if there are any "gotchas" you think I 
> should know please let me know via private email.  I am in digest 
> mode so it could take a while before I see responses to the list.  I 
> am also going to download the gnome documentation from www.gnome.org.
> 
> thanks
> jmb

Even though the docs say otherwise, replacing your .xsession with the
line "exec gnome-session" is NOT foolproof. After a couple of days,
gnome-session started launching my panel without a WindowManager.
After about the third time I did "rm -rf '~/.gnome'", I ditched
it. IMHO, its much more reliable to just put this in .xsession:

#! /bin/sh
panel &
exec enlightenment # or any other window manager

Good luck. Also, if you want to try out kde (perhaps just
create a user called kde to test it), or just use some
of the cool KDE apps, then add this to your sources.list:
deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde/debian slink kde contrib
-- 
Stephen Pitts
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