George Bonser wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote: > > > I don't see Deb spending a lot of time playing politics. I don't > > see Deb developers spending a lot of time on other mailing lists > > or newsgroups proselytizing Debian over other dists. For the most > > part, we do our thing, and let word-of-mouth bring new people to > > Debian. Whether Debian can survive the long run with just > > word-of-mouth promotion is an open question, though. > > I see a lot of squabbling on debian-devel and there is doubtless more > unseen in debian-private about political issues from every conceivable > angle. It can sometimes account for a full day's traffic. Is that energy > wasted? I think it is to varying degrees. Debian will sometimes get so > bogged down on an issue the rest of the world doen't give a rat's pair of > hips about or on someones novel interpretation of what they think > something in a license might mean if looked at from some goofy angle. But > that is part of what makes Debian Debian.
I think I'll start lurking on debian-devel to see whats being said. Not having seen whats going on in debian-devel, I'll agree here. > > Red Hat sees its job as being the definition of Linux. When someone > thinks Linux, you are supposed to think Red Hat. They do not particularly > CARE if it is GOOD Linux but that it is THE Linux. I can't find the > article that appeared in the past several days but it is the one comparing > Red Hat with Heinz ketchup. > > They are a business. That means their goal is to sell things that people > want (or convince them they want it) and make money. Their goal is to make > the average person who has NEVER tried Red Hat before and is not much of > an internet junkie grab the Red Hat box when they go to the computer > store for the first time to buy Linux. Agreed. > What WE need to do is emphasize that nobody ever gets fired for thowing > away Red Hat and upgrading to Debian. If it really gets to this point, it'll be too late, I fear. --------------- Actually I wish I could have rescinded my previous post. First I wasn't aware of the fact (pointed out in the last debian-news newsletter) that Debian had its own booth at the recent Linux conference. My statement about Debian relying primarily on word-of-mouth was obviously very incorrect. Not that I disagree with this, this is exactly the kind of 'visibility' we need. I thought this would be the kind of action a commercial company using Deb as a base distribution would do for us. Second, my remark about 'proselytizing' isn't entirely correct, although I was referring to Deb developers. I've proselytized on Debian a few times in various Linux related newsgroups, and if I'm doing it there are bound to be others. I'll take some time and read the 'politics' going on in debian-devel, as you say, before I comment about this topic again. -- Ed C.