Tom Allard writes: Tom> Back in the days when I logged in over an HDS terminal, I could see the Tom> advantage of all this. But in a modern X environment I would rather not. Tom> Netscape is a fine browser, exmh is an excellent mail reader, tkman is Tom> the best man page browser I've seen, bash supports scrollable history, Tom> etc. Why would I want to do everything in Emacs when there's so many Tom> other packages that do what they do best? I want an editor to be used for Tom> editing.
Matter of taste. Editing is the main usage I have for it too. It's true that modern environments have performant tools (netscape and the like). However, it's not enough to have plenty of performing tools to make a good environement. They have to communicate cleverly with each other. Emacsen are good for that, and they were laregely conceived as `desktops' as we know them now with KDE of Gnome. It's very probable that mature desktops will decrease the usage of Emacsen for other things than editing in the future. However, I still see several reasons to "live" in Emacs: * I don't like mouses. I have 10 fingers and I like fast keystrokes. It's amazing what you can do with 10 fingers, and at what speed you can do it :-) This means that for instance, I prefer to type `M-x man' and get a manpage with hyperlinks and all the stuff you want in the same window, rather than grabbing the mouse, chaging window, read, regrab the mouse, return. * I like to configure /in depth/ the stuff that I use. Emacs is the most configurable piece of code I've ever seen, and will probably stay so for a long time. * editing/compiling/debugging Tom> What really sets vim apart is that it is a *modal* editor. That means the Tom> same keys do different things depending on the mode (normal mode, insert Tom> mode, visual mode, etc). The advantage is that you can do 99% of your Tom> editing without taking your fingers off the home row. You don't need to Tom> use the cursor keys, page up/down, home, end and all the others. You Tom> *can* use those keys, but you can also just keep your fingers where they Tom> belong. All of this apply to Emacs as well, I think. What's funny about Emacs is that either you can't stand the appearant complexity of the keystrokes and the like, or it becomes soon a religion. -- / / _ _ Didier Verna http://www.inf.enst.fr/~verna/ - / / - / / /_/ / E.N.S.T. INF C201.1 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /_/ / /_/ / /__ / 46 rue Barrault Tel. (33) 01 45 81 73 46 75634 Paris cedex 13 Fax. (33) 01 45 81 31 19