you know you might be right :) i just phoned my isp and they confermed
that i had to send a lowercase ppp to activate my ppp session 
lots of rolling eyes and gasping
well i am going to go home tonight and check if it is the case i will
be very angery and very happy because i have spent about 3 months on
and off and even resorted to using windows :( anyway if it does work i
will start pestering yall with questions about gcc :) and if it doesnt
well ......

:)
thanks for ur help
Jeremy

---Daniel Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Are you certain that your chatscript is going far enough?
> That is, are you certain that after sending PPP your ISP doesn't ask
> for a username and password?  (or do you perhaps need PPP in
> lowercase?)  This error looks like your ISP isn't responding to pppd
> at all; this often happens when there's some other prompt your ISP
> presents that you aren't taking care of with your chatscript.
> 
> Try dialing in manually with minicom, and do what's necessary to
start 
> ppp far enough to get the ppp garbage that looks like 
> !}!}!} }8}"}&} } } } }#}
> or similar.  (or, at the very least get to the point where your ISP
> isn't sending you anything, but is waiting for pppd on your machine
to 
> send garbage like the above).  Then, to make sure that you have
indeed 
> manually connected properly, exit minicom without hanging up the
modem 
> (Ctrl-A Q), and do:
> 
> /usr/sbin/pppd bsdcomp 15 crtscts mru 300 mtu 300 defaultroute
>    noipdefault /dev/modem 38400 modem noauth
> 
> (all on one line).  (Instead of 38400, use the speed minicom was
using 
> with your modem; if your provider uses PAP, include "user
> <yourusername" at the end of the line).  Hopefully you'll find an
> error somewhere in your chatscript.

==
It's not just that Linux has a bigger dick than the others,
it's also not prone to pre-mature ejaculation and failure
to respond when it's services are required...
not quoted from http://www.linux.org

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