On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 11:14:37AM -0500, Mark Panzer wrote: > Ed Cogburn wrote: > > > > Mark Panzer wrote: > > > > > > Question, > > > > > > Apt is supposed to be a better replacement for dselect/dpkg right? Can > > > you install it on a HAMM system, and if so how? I guess I kinda got > > > left behind on the Apt thing. Does Apt use the same .deb's as dselect? > > > Also what is the proper way to compile and install a kernel in debian? > > > I've heard make kpkg instead of make zlilo and other makeables. Sorry > > > for all the questions. Thanks. > > > > > > Mark Panzer > > > > > Apt is a replacement for dselect, not dpkg. It is front-end to > > dpkg, > > so the '.deb' packaging scheme is the same. It currently has only a > > command-line interface. However it also installs itself as a 'access' > > method under dselect. dselect/apt is better than dselect/ftp. > > 'make-kpkg' is supposed to be the Debian Way(TM), although, being > > lazy, > > I still go the old zlilo/zImage route. > > > If you make the zlilo will it "break" your system, by confusing dselect. > Or is this an exceptable practice?
Well I will admit... at first I hated make-kpkg so I rea dthe docs and... NO doing the make by hand and installing the kernel should not break ANYTHING (unless you do it wrong ;) then it could break EVERYTHING ;) ) I never did a make zlilo...I alwas used to make zImage and then do the rest of the install by hand. I did ONCE try zlilo I think...and it used some braindead defaults which required my fixing. The only problem with NOT using make-kpkg is that dpkg doesn't know that you upgraded...as far as it knows you have some other kernel. This means that if some program depends on a certain kernel version you may need to force the depends... of course there is always that package which lets you override the system by makeing a dummy package... btw speaking of hateing make-kpkg... I was wrong... man it is GREAT! It works so well and works every time for me. and its really nice to know I have a backup kernel + modules "just in case" > I think it would be a good idea to > have the "Debian Linux Kernel Compiling HOWTO" since everyone who wants > sound has to recompile. I didn't have to...then again...I payed for OSS/Linux > Also if you select modules (suppose I have to > if I get a PnP card) will it compile all the drivers not selected in > make [menu/x/config] into modules so you can use them or do you still > have to select the ones you want in make? if you want it to make the module you MUST select it in the config as a module > It would be kinda cool if you > could just make a tiny kernel with only HDD support (and network) and > then insmod or use kdeamon to put all the modules in, also if you added > more hardware later you could just insmod that driver for it and not > have to recompile. well whatever floats your boat really.... I tend to compile everything I need into the kernel... in fact if it wasn't fo rthe fact I needed BOTH ppa and lp my kernel would really be monolithic (well...except for OSS/Linux...but since the newer 2.1.x kernels have AudioPCI support, and I got a serial printer... I may soon be able to have a truely monolithic kernel) of course recently I did compile a completely monolithic kernel (without even loadable module support) ...and I did it without kernel-package... but it was for an XTerminal which was NFS-rooting > (gee I think I'd like to delete that Win95 partition > too bad I need Word for school). nah...get staroffice ;) -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>------------ */ E-mail "Bumper Stickers": "A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both!" "honk if you Love Linux"
