Damn, got zapped by the no reply-to again.
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>From: "Steve Lamb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "James Blackwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:41:45 -0700
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>Subject: Re: A friendly #linux
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On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 22:39:44 -0700 (PDT), James Blackwell wrote:
>Nope. I buy the best equipment for my budget that works under Linux.
>I've had *very* little problems finding very nice hardware.
For your budget being the operative words. Last I remembered you weren't
gainfully employed or if you were it was at a pissant job.
>Heh. I'm not going to touch this. I think it's obvious to most here
>what I'd say.
Then say it.
>That's fine. Keep your windows world in the windows world, and leave
>linux alone. Us idealists don't need you.
I'm afraid you do. You've lost touch with reality. First off, here is a
dose of reality.
Linux didn't create the free software/open source movement. The FSF did.
>> And I can buy PCs without Windows. I never *HAVE* bought a PC with
>> windows. Consider that a pop quiz for ya.
>Well, there's a few people that would like your hookups then, because a
>*lot* of people complain that they can't get a built box without an OS.
From the major vendors? No. But any schmuck in a (red) hat can pick up
a copy of the Linux Journal and find at least 10 ads for places that will
build PCs with any OS they chose on it, from Windows to Linux, OS/2 to
FreeBSD. Personally, I'm waiting for them to offer BeOS as well.
As for me, it is simple. I buy the parts, build my own. I've built my
own since my first PC was bought, a Hyundai 386sx-16 w/DOS 6.22 on it and
nothing else. I realized long ago, 9 years now, that the big names also
equate to proprietary configurations, lock you into a single upgrade path
(same vendor) which you pay through the ass for and only until they
discontinue the model. Since then I have traded, bartered and hinted for
gifts on computer equiptment. I've gone through 4 computers since then,
every since one I built from new and old parts. In fact, I currently have
three of them running, one of which I just sold on eBay. Solid 486, just
don't need it any more.
>> They belong on every platform.
>Bah.
Just as the reverse is true, that open source belongs on every platform.
>I've heard that threat before! Among others that have made that threat
>are Seifried and Scrye. You go or you stay at your leisure.
I've not seen them return, have you?
>As I mentioned before, it was an idea on the table. That's all, nothing
>else. You've gotten majorly out of control of your emotions. Do I scare
>you or something?
No emotions, just tired of the religious rhetoric seeping into the
channel policy. And in case you're saying it is not seeping into it,
remember that it was you who said this:
>(U?)nfortunately, I'm the person responsible for dictating the
>channel's policies. I'm the one that has to decide whether the Linux
>effort is best supported by helping commercial products this time, or
>specifically excluding them. I don't doubt that we modify about 100
>opinions a month, and that adds up.
Just the mere fact that it is under consideration in your mind means it
is seeping into policy.
>> >It's thoughts like these that make me think that perhaps we should
>> >commercialize the channel. Prepaid service, $.50 a minute, which would
>> >then be evenly distributed by the ops according to how much time was
>> >spent in the channel.
>> No, it is thoughts like that that are reasonable. Just because *YOU*
>> have a personal crusade doesn't mean it should be policy. That is poor
>> management. I've managed channels and had to make decisions that were
>> counter to my personal beliefs because it was the RIGHT thing to do. I'm
>> sorry that you don't have that personal strength.
>Boy. you really *are* a money grub, aren't you?
How so? Because I am reasonable enough to understand a few things on a
higher level than you appear to be able to?
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