>For those of you who don't know, I am the current webmaster for Debian. >I just heard of this thread yesterday and was going to read the debian-user >archive, but won't bother as the discussion has been moved. Future replies >will not go to debian-user so subscribe to debian-www if you are interested in >this. > >Thomas Apel wrote: >> Concerning the topic I think the most important thing about the Debian >> www site is its content. Besides this it should be fast-loading and easy >> to use with any browser. >> >> But I also think that a good design is a nice thing AND possible without >> loosing the above attributes. Good design does not necessarily mean >> frames, tons of graphics or java animations. >> >If you had been involved in previous discussions, you would know that >the developers felt very strongly that there should be NO forms or java >on the pages and that the amount of graphics should be minimized. >Tables are well enough supported now that there is no problem in using them. > >> Who is interested in what I think of might have a look at: >> http://www.koeln.netsurf.de/~thomas.apel/debian/index.html >> >> Although this is a pretty simple page compared to many other sites I >> could even imagine a more simple page without tables. >> >The page you designed is very much along the lines I had been thinking about. >Many people have been complaining (and just as many complimenting) the site. >I have encouraged every person who has written complaining about the site to >offer suggestions and not a single one has actually come back with anything >constructive. Thank you for your effort. > >I have been working on getting all the mirrors set up so we can easily handle >multiple languages (will be done using content negotiation). It was originally >hoped that the pages would be translated by the release of 2.0. As that >doesn't appear likely, it would be best to make these modifications before >a major translation effort to minimize the work of the translators. > >Here are some points that should be addressed/discussed: > > Should we only redesign the top page, or modify all the pages to use frames > (in particular the left margin or top frame to ease moving around the site)? > My feeling is to leave the other pages as is. > > There should be a place for the Debian logo (do not start a discussion on > the quality of the logo. This will be discussed somewhere else). > > Should we use style sheets? > > Is there any point in keeping the site index? I inherited it and have (sort >of) > maintained it, but don't see the point. > > There needs to be space at the bottom for the logo of the site sponsor. > > After the pages are translated, there will be links at the bottom to > access the page in specific languages. This is for those who don't set up > the preferred_language variable in their browser. > > FYI, it has been my intention to have the actual web pages generated using > m4. > This would allow us to have a generic header and footer (for each language) > and have time stamps be generated automatically. Modifying the header or > footer in the past has been a royal pain as every page had to be changed by > hand. > > Is it necessary to have both the left frame and titlebar links? > > A few specific changes: > We go International -> Debian goes International (We doesn't work well >here) > Bug Tracking -> Bug Tracking System > > >Jay Treacy > > Why don't you start a competition? Invite everyone to have a go at redesigning a set part of the site, then take the best ideas and apply them to the whole site. Just an idea.
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