On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Ossama Othman wrote: : > However, if those of us who like to think of ourselves as : > hackers in the traditional sense of the word (and I;m talking : > computer tradition) take exception to your lumping us with egregious : > criminal miscreants, and flame you to a crisp, would that be fine : > too? : : Never did I lump hackers with "egregious criminal miscreants." I merely : took the objective point of view and was explaining how/why the "outside : world" may see what a hacker is. I repeatedly explained that I : disagreed with the improper use of the term "hacker," yet you still : lump me with the outside world. Please don't accuse me of something I : never did. : : > Ossama> (This is just a preventative measure on my part so that I : > Ossama> don`t nailed with flames...heh.) : > : > Too late. : : IMHO, I shouldn't have been flamed to begin with. There is a difference : with being objective and actually stating that something or someone is : wrong. It is unfortunate that you failed to notice my objectivity.
Well, actually what you said was this (sorry about the quoting; I deleted the original for some reason): >> : Who is right and who is wrong? I would have to say neither. >> Each of us : is entitled to their own interpretation. So, following that logic, if I present a mathematical proof that 2=1 (ever seen that one? It hides a division by zero deep down inside ...), then 2=1 because I said so. Never mind that my interpretation is wrong. Objectivity usually involves an attempt to reconcile two reasonable points of view. Calling criminals "hackers", and thereby lumping a large number of real hackers in with idiots is not "reasonable". Cheers, -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 phone: (605) 334-4454 fax: (605) 335-1173 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net PGP Key ID: 0xA33B86E9 - Public key available at keyservers PGP Key fingerprint: CE03 10AF 3281 1858 9D32 C2AB 936D C472 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .