Hello. 1. Looking for a way to discuss the badmailfrom-list-problem I've resubscribed the debian user list with my old uni accout. Guess what happened: I'm getting all posting twice now since a while (no prices).
2. If postings are not permitted, the T-Online account is useless with respect to debian. So, this is a call for unsubscription. But how does one unsubscribe a address listed in the badmailfrom list? (Sorry for the lengthy headers below). 3. T-Online runs a few local news groups, where just local topics are discussed. The Linux folks there are still a minority, but a growing one. Did I make something wrong when mentioning Debian as the most mature and professional Linux distribution (IMHO) and pointing to the debian homepage etc.? The badmailfrom list problem is going to give Debian a strange taste, if this sort of protection will be permanent. 4. No, I'm not going to change my ISP tomorrow. 5. Assumption: When posting the first time from my uni account (in 1996 ?) I had to reply an agreement with a few statements concerning spam and netiquette etc, which was ok. Wouldn't this be a more professional solution than to just shield any posting from hosts on the badmailfrom list? 6. What ISPs are on this black list today and which will problably be tomorrow? This could become of some interest to anyone. 7. Could someone please wake up the real postmaster (thanks, Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, for your statements so far) ? 8. Yes, I would be glad if this thread could be ended with a positive answer. Thank you. Andreas Wehler. ========== failure to unsubscribe ================================== :From: Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender :To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 21:29:58 +0100 :Mail-from: From POPmail Fri Jan 2 23:39:46 1998 :Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON> :Received: from mailout01.btx.dtag.de ([194.25.2.149]) by mailin00.btx.dtag.de with : smtp (S3.1.29.1) id <m0xoDk5-000ACFC>; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 21:30:53 +0100 :Received: from root by mailout01.btx.dtag.de with local : id 0xoDjC-0003yz-00; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 21:29:58 +0100 :Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :Lines: 32 :Xref: midi2.prisi.de other:557 :X-Gnus-Newsgroup: other:557 Fri Jan 2 23:44:39 1998 : :This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. : :A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. The :following address(es) failed: : : [EMAIL PROTECTED]: : SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO: : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: : host debian.novare.net [205.229.104.5]: : 553 sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list (#5.7.1) : :------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ : :Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :Received: from (fwd06.btx.dtag.de) [194.25.2.166] : by mailout01.btx.dtag.de with smtp : id 0xoDi9-0003nW-00; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 21:28:53 +0100 :Received: from midi2.prisi.de (0202753664-0001(btxid)@[193.159.59.181]) : by fwd06.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) : id <m0xoDhu-0003XUC>; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 21:28:38 +0100 :Received: by midi2.prisi.de : id m0xoDiB-0009cDC : (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Fri, 2 Jan 1998 21:28:55 +0100 (MET) :Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 21:28:55 +0100 (MET) :To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Bcc: :X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr. Andreas Wehler - Wuppertal) : :unsubscribe -- Dr. Andreas Wehler; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Luebecker Str. 16, 42109 Wuppertal; Tel./Fax.: (0202) 753664 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .