[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> I know someone asked about this recently.  Sorry for not paying
> more attention.  I got twin from the caldera archive.  It does not
> seem to have compiled correctly.  Can anyone tell me how they got
> it up and running?  I am trying to install it to /twin because I
> have a lot of room on /.  I know that it is hard to tell what the
> problem I am having is. Is it appropriate to attach a script file
> of the compile?  If it is I can do that.

I finally gave up trying to compile the program, but you can still
get it to run.  You can get pre-compiled binaries at the following
location:

     ftp://ftp.willows.com/pub/twin-libs/twin16-OPT-bin-3.0.13.tgz

Then just follow the rest of the installation instructions as if you
had compiled them yourself.

>  I try to do almost everything except administration as user.  I
> only proform administration such as installing all debian stuff as
> root.  Is it safe to install/compile non-debian programs as root. 
> I tried to install twin as both and neither worked well.  Why is it
> that certain programs do not execute as root even though x
> permission is set. (xboard for example) I am not advocating playing
> chess as root I would just like to understand the mechanics
> involved.

I believe the problem is that xboard is not in root's PATH.  Try
typing "/usr/games/xboard".  I think this is where xboard is
installed.  (I've compiled my own xboard to get "zippy" support so I
don't have the Debian Package installed.)  If xboard is not in
/usr/games, login as a user who has access to xboard and at the xterm
type, "which xboard".  This will show you exactly what you need to
type in order to execute xboard as root.

>  And lastly, like most all of you I love poking around my system. 
> I have no objection to having to fiddle around a little in order to
> make things work. In fact I love it.  This is one of the charms of
> linux and something will be lost when or if it becomes a fully
> polished product.  However having said that, it really annoys me
> when I cannot try an application deselect says I have installed
> because I cannot figure out what the name of the executable is.
> Many new linux users are not coming with strong unix backrounds.
> And may in fact know little or nothing about the program they are
> trying out or learning.  Please keep this in mind. At least let us
> know how to start the application.  Anyway dselect says visual-tcl
> is installed, but where is it?

What I like to do is to create a "temp" directory directly beneath
the directory which contains the new debian package.  Then, while in
the directory which containes the debian package, I type
"dpkg --extract <debian.package.deb> temp".  This doesn't install the
package, but it does extract all the executables (and all the other
files in the package) into the "temp" directory.  Just "cd temp" and
type "find".  All the files will scroll past.  Look for the files
which are in the usual directories for execution.  When you are done,
"cd" back to the directory with the debian packages and type
"rm -r temp".


Paul Serice


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