In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you
 wrote:
>On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Dima wrote:
>

>> Also, runlevels _are flexible.  Nobody can force me to start networking
>> daemons at RL 2 -- I can bloody well start them from ip-up when I ring my
>> ISP, at whatever runlevel I happen to be then.  (In practice I don't care: 
>> when I don't need networking daemons, they waste about $0.5 worth of my 
>> swap partition.  Big deal).
>> 
>This is a different thing all together. What you are doing is saying that
>runlevels are not flexible enough to handle your networking daemon
>requirements, so you'r gonna do it manualy. You are just saying that they
>are flexible because you don't have to use them.

What I meant was, let's say on my box I have runlevels 0 - 2 for powerdown
(you're quite right about that not belonging in rl 5, btw), halt and reboot,
rl 3 = single-user, 4 = multi-user and 5 = multi-user with xdm running.
I'm not concerned with, e.g. networking daemons.
A person configuring web/mail/newsserver would be concerned with the
order in which daemons are started, and s/he would edit rls 4 - 6 
accordingly.  S/he doesn't care about xdm.
On, say, a router programs running at rls 4 - 6 will be different again.  
What remains is the order in which various programs are started/killed;
I think that can easily fit into a stack-like thingy (or a state machine,
for that matter).
We don't know which exactly "various programs" they'll happen to be on a 
given machine; we can, however, provide a reasonable, easy to modify 
default.

Anyway, I'd prefer any (open would be nice) standard, as long as it's 
supported by at least 3 - 4 different unices.  As long as it's not
a single program group called "startup"... :)

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