Hi there, This message was definetelly not appropriate for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I even do not know if it is for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there still a debian-talk list?
> I cannot believe that after HOW MANY years of development, X windows is > still such a completely inconsistent and painful user interface. This is a true problem which last from the fact that X11 is seperated from the stadart toolkit Motif (which is payware) > The STUPIDITY of the whole thing is frustrating. Yes this is also true. There is no orthogonal user interface. > Text fields between applications do not work the same. One is not > guranteed to be able to copy/paste text between fields. Some fields must > have the mouse pointer within them during the editing process, some don't. This is due to different toolkits. > There is no inter-application communication or awareness to speak of. This can be handled via sockets,fifos,ipc... [lot of stuff about deficiencies of X11 based desktops] !! There is a solution up and coming !! Have look at the kde project. You will find kde mirrors at the following locations: ftp://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/pub/kde/ <-- primary site ftp://ftp.net.lut.ac.uk/kde/ ftp://ftp.nvg.unit.no/pub/linux/kde/ WWW info can be found at: http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/ettrich/kde.txt http://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/kde/index.html http://www.zws.com/kde/ http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~cooperb/kde/style.html There is a nice screenshot of an already working kde (kool desktop environment) http://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/kde/demos/kdescreenshot1.jpg.gz We already do have: kcalc a nifty kde calculator with hex, dec, oct, bin kclock a simple analog kde clock kfm the kde filemanager (also handles URLs and tar) kmines a kde minesweeper clone kpat a kde solitaer clone colia a kde draw program which shall replace xfig/tgif kMix a kde mixer for your soundcard kterm a kde replacement for xterm libkde a configuration class library kpopup a kde extension to Qt progress a kde extension to Qt kwm a kde windows manager acli a little command line interface Soon to come kLyX a kde version of the famous WYSIWYM LaTeX based textprocessor ktetris a kde version of tetris (we've been all waiting for :-)) Yours, -- martin BTW: Who wants to write a dpkg based installer for kde. // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
