Mark Eichin:
> 
> > they often come without a C compiler.  And it's more than just compress
> 
> Often? Solaris is the only unix I know of that doesn't come with a

Add another one: SCO OpenServer 5.  Well, the development system is on
the CD-ROM, but you can't install it without entering that little
license number - which is different from the one for the OS itself...

> If you mean non-unix platforms, well, there are DOS, Windows, and

No, I mean unix platforms only :-).  On non-unix platforms there are
other programs (pkzip etc.) used much more often than tar and compress.

> Consider also: why does debian need to be in the business of helping
> unisys make money? Anyone running linux who needs to read compressed

RedHat and FreeBSD have licenses (I assume they do, otherwise Unisys
would have sued them) - who knows, maybe it is possible to get one for
free?  I sent a question about this to Unisys, and I'm waiting for
their reply.  We'll see...

> And would people stop using "X11 fonts" as an example? Or do I have to
> actually post patches to make xfs use gzip or zlib [zlib is the

Good.  Are there plans to include this in the standard X distribution?
Also, I would really like to see all UN*X vendors starting to ship gzip
as a standard part of the OS distribution.

> (Sorry to rant like this; I just don't like seeing fellow debian
> developers get flamed for already doing what I consider the right

Sorry, it was not my intent to flame the developers.  I just don't like
the US software patents and other such idiocies (ITAR etc.) affecting
*all* Debian users, no matter if they live in the US or not.  That's why
I think we should start moving the thing outside the US.  Part of it has
already been done (mailing lists) - let's not stop here...

Regards,

Marek

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